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Posted by ian34 on March 28, 2006, at 22:53:33
from anti-psychiatry message boards
Posted by fairywings on March 28, 2006, at 23:55:55
In reply to Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD, posted by ian34 on March 28, 2006, at 22:53:33
Huh? I guess I missed something somewhere. I've never heard link say he was a doc, and I've always found his posts to be really helpful.
fw
Posted by spriggy on March 29, 2006, at 0:12:00
In reply to Re: Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD » ian34, posted by fairywings on March 28, 2006, at 23:55:55
Posted by snapper on March 29, 2006, at 2:59:31
In reply to Re: Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD » ian34, posted by fairywings on March 28, 2006, at 23:55:55
doubt it!!! lol. Link is very helpful but what would he have to gain by spending 3 to 4 years hear at PB... other than he; like most of us are hoping to find, some Answers to thier brain problems.... and I just don't think "trolls" as you speak of need to moonlight here at PB if in fact they really are MD's. He is in fact very nice and might make a great Dr. but from what I know of him, his forte is Math .
Cheers
Snapper
Posted by zeugma on March 29, 2006, at 5:08:08
In reply to Re: Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD, posted by snapper on March 29, 2006, at 2:59:31
I have never seen a post in which linkadge claimed to have authoritative information and/or indulged in amateur prescription games. If anything, his posts have a questioning tone which is uncharacteristic of the 'amateur MD.'
-z
Posted by greywolf on March 29, 2006, at 7:18:37
In reply to Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD, posted by ian34 on March 28, 2006, at 22:53:33
Well, Ian34, since you are intent on being provocative, why don't you post the proof from which you draw your aspersions?
It seems to me that Linkadge has gained a degree of competence in understanding pharmaceuticals, and has shared his knowledge to the benefit of others. That doesn't mean he's a doctor in disguise, just someone who gives a crap about others.
So, what are the grounds for your accusation (because I think you have an obligation to be clear and accurate when you make statements like that)?
Posted by linkadge on March 29, 2006, at 8:23:33
In reply to Re: Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD, posted by greywolf on March 29, 2006, at 7:18:37
I wouldn't really call myself antipsychiatry. I think that it can be very helpfull when it is administered properly. I think there is always a possiblity for harm, and I'm really just often trying to guage the extent of that.
Linkadge
Posted by ClearSkies on March 29, 2006, at 8:43:44
In reply to Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD, posted by ian34 on March 28, 2006, at 22:53:33
Please don't jump to conclusions about others. Your opinion is valuable, but our freedom of speech is limited here.
If you have any questions, please follow up on the Administration board.
ClearSkies, acting as deputy for Dr Bob
Posted by ClearSkies on March 29, 2006, at 12:58:20
In reply to Please be civil » ian34, posted by ClearSkies on March 29, 2006, at 8:43:44
Post titled "Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD"
> Please don't jump to conclusions about others. Your opinion is valuable, but our freedom of speech is limited here.
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> If you have any questions, please follow up on the Administration board.
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> ClearSkies, acting as deputy for Dr BobJust to make myself Clear.
Thanks
Posted by Racer on March 29, 2006, at 14:11:19
In reply to Re: Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD, posted by greywolf on March 29, 2006, at 7:18:37
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> It seems to me that Linkadge has gained a degree of competence in understanding pharmaceuticals, and has shared his knowledge to the benefit of others. That doesn't mean he's a doctor in disguise, just someone who gives a crap about others.
>Thank you. That's a nice way to describe Link, and it's kind of you to take the time to write it.
Posted by ace on March 29, 2006, at 20:18:36
In reply to Re: Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD, posted by linkadge on March 29, 2006, at 8:23:33
> I wouldn't really call myself antipsychiatry. I think that it can be very helpfull when it is administered properly. I think there is always a possiblity for harm, and I'm really just often trying to guage the extent of that.
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> LinkadgeI can understand. People like Peter Breggin, for all the nonsense he speaks, are actually good. We need restrictions on everything and watchdogs. I personally believe a LOT of psychiatrists overmedicate to people who have exogeneous problems....but what did you post in antispchiatry columns?
Peace
Ace
Posted by Phillipa on March 29, 2006, at 21:13:38
In reply to Re: Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD » ian34, posted by fairywings on March 28, 2006, at 23:55:55
fw I must be missing something too. Link has never claimed to be a doctor. Just posting researh and his knowledge of what he knows of the meds. Love Phillipa
Posted by lostforwards on March 29, 2006, at 21:34:16
In reply to Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD, posted by ian34 on March 28, 2006, at 22:53:33
I don't have a problem with Link. Though he has recently been posting a lot about side-effects and "corkscrewing" receptors.
I remember a while back...the dopamine debate... he was actually advocating SSRIs.
Posted by TylerJ on March 29, 2006, at 21:45:44
In reply to Re: Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD, posted by lostforwards on March 29, 2006, at 21:34:16
> I don't have a problem with Link. Though he has recently been posting a lot about side-effects and "corkscrewing" receptors.
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> I remember a while back...the dopamine debate... he was actually advocating SSRIs.
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I think Linkage is a good guy. Just has a tendency to focus on the negative..just my opinion.Tyler
Posted by tizza on March 30, 2006, at 1:15:19
In reply to Re: Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD » lostforwards, posted by TylerJ on March 29, 2006, at 21:45:44
I focus on the negative aspect of AD's too, quite a lot of late, but on the other hand I post about the positives of some benzo's. Everyone is passionate about something whether good or bad. Paul
Posted by verne on March 30, 2006, at 8:05:11
In reply to Linkadge is a troll pretending to be an MD, posted by ian34 on March 28, 2006, at 22:53:33
I don't think he/she made any claims of authority.
verne
Posted by linkadge on March 30, 2006, at 9:22:10
In reply to Re: Linkadge » linkadge, posted by ace on March 29, 2006, at 20:18:36
"....but what did you post in antispchiatry columns?"
Thats a good question (????)
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on March 30, 2006, at 9:48:36
In reply to I find Linkadge Informative and Helpful, posted by verne on March 30, 2006, at 8:05:11
I wasn't even the one who came up with the study that suggested SSRI's could cause such changes to serotonin receptors. It's not even my idea. I was simply siting a study that scared me, and wondered if followup studies had been compiled.
Its not even that I am trying to focus on the negative. Its really that I am trying to *clarify* or *understand* the negative.
What if the drugs turned out to be more dangerous than people were assumed?
People would be asking "why didn't forsee this possability?" and the answer would be that evertime somebody dared to raise a question, they got "boo'ed" of stage.
Linkadge
Posted by Sarah T. on April 1, 2006, at 0:55:35
In reply to I find Linkadge Informative and Helpful, posted by verne on March 30, 2006, at 8:05:11
I agree that Linkadge is informative and helpful. He is very well-read and is an asset to this site. I don't think he comes across as negative or anti-psychiatry. In some posts, he does express the enormous frustration that most of us have had to contend with as a result of inadequate medications and doctors. I think the Psychobabble Med board gives a pretty clear picture of what we go through. If I want to look at the world through rose-colored glasses or read about how wonderful the currently available psychotropic drugs are, or if I want to read lies, I can leaf through the drug ads placed by pharmaceutical companies in medical journals. Or, thanks to direct-to-consumer marketing, I can now find those ads/lies on TV and in just about any magazine, from TIME to GOOD HOUSEKEEPING. I'm willing to bet that if "Babblers" were living such rosy lives, they'd be doing just that (i.e., living their rosy lives) instead of frequenting message boards such as this, desperately seeking help and searching for answers that our paid and presumably educated doctors have been unable to provide.
Posted by tizza on April 1, 2006, at 2:59:39
In reply to Re: I find Linkadge Informative and Helpful, posted by Sarah T. on April 1, 2006, at 0:55:35
> I agree that Linkadge is informative and helpful. He is very well-read and is an asset to this site. I don't think he comes across as negative or anti-psychiatry. In some posts, he does express the enormous frustration that most of us have had to contend with as a result of inadequate medications and doctors. I think the Psychobabble Med board gives a pretty clear picture of what we go through. If I want to look at the world through rose-colored glasses or read about how wonderful the currently available psychotropic drugs are, or if I want to read lies, I can leaf through the drug ads placed by pharmaceutical companies in medical journals. Or, thanks to direct-to-consumer marketing, I can now find those ads/lies on TV and in just about any magazine, from TIME to GOOD HOUSEKEEPING. I'm willing to bet that if "Babblers" were living such rosy lives, they'd be doing just that (i.e., living their rosy lives) instead of frequenting message boards such as this, desperately seeking help and searching for answers that our paid and presumably educated doctors have been unable to provide.
I couldn't agree more with you, Linkadge is very helpful for this board. Paul
Posted by flmm on April 1, 2006, at 14:03:55
In reply to Re: I find Linkadge Informative and Helpful, posted by Sarah T. on April 1, 2006, at 0:55:35
I sense a sort of passive/agressive bend towards Links posts concerning meds.Thoughts
Posted by Declan on April 1, 2006, at 16:15:03
In reply to Re: I find Linkadge Informative and Helpful ?, posted by flmm on April 1, 2006, at 14:03:55
You mean like more than just ambivalent? Whenever anyone suggests to me that I'm passive aggressive I take it that in some obscure way I am being told that I'm dishonest, but I'm probably paranoid as well etc.
Declan
Posted by verne on April 1, 2006, at 17:24:38
In reply to Re: I find Linkadge Informative and Helpful ? » flmm, posted by Declan on April 1, 2006, at 16:15:03
Declan,
You're right, calling someone "passive aggressive" isn't a neutral observation. No matter how politely put - or even true - it's an accusation: you are "attacking" me.
I like the term myself. I use it because I'd rather label someone than actually think. No really, that's what I do most of the time - sadly.
You're right about the honesty question. Telling someone they are "passive aggressive" is like saying that they aren't honest about their behavior - and, worse, don't even know about it. (or why do we need to tell them?)
I think Linkadge aggressively investigates known and potential problems with medications period. Nothing passive or dishonest about it. I think it's great.
Verne
Posted by summerflowers on April 2, 2006, at 4:05:37
In reply to Re: I find Linkadge Informative and Helpful ? » Declan, posted by verne on April 1, 2006, at 17:24:38
I agree with all the above positive posts.Linkadge is cool.
Posted by CEK on April 2, 2006, at 9:04:02
In reply to Re: I find Linkadge Informative and Helpful ?, posted by summerflowers on April 2, 2006, at 4:05:37
I can't believe that anyone would post something so negative about another person on this site. It actually angers me. What do any of us come to this site for? Evidently we have talked to doctors and haven't gotten the help that we needed so we come here for suggestions from real people to help us. In the pampletes on the meds we are told about control group experiences but we can't communicate with those people to find out more information. We need to communicate with real live breathing people to know what has been experienced. If someone like Linkage has read and studied certain subjects and is kind enough to relate it to us, why slam him? If you don't like what he has to say, ignore it then. Some of us actually find his information to be helpful. Everyone has their own opinion but I think if you can't respect what anothers opinion is then why even come to this site. I thought that was the whole point of this thread stuff. As much bs as there is in the world why should anyone have to come to this site to hear of someone talking bad of another person. If someone doesn't want another persons opinion then do your own research and talk to your own doctors and don't bother looking for help here. We are all here to help each other, not to hurt each other. Linkage, thank you for your opinion and for sharing your research with the rest of us. I know I appreciate it. CEK
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