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Posted by Phillipa on April 20, 2005, at 18:02:18
In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant » rjlockhart98, posted by tendency on April 20, 2005, at 11:54:24
You would think they would cancel each other out and you'd be back where you started. I don't understand how it works. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 0:19:52
In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant, posted by Phillipa on April 20, 2005, at 18:02:18
Posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 2:32:49
In reply to anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant, posted by rjlockhart98 on April 20, 2005, at 10:49:51
> I take Adderall 40mg daily with lorazepam 1mg.
>
> THis indirectly makes the anxiety ease, but its not noticable, you know "feel it".
>
> I havent gone up to 2mg before, because i am throught with experimenting.
>
>
> Does anyone else have a similar sitation?Yup--I take 1mg 4xdaily with Dexedrine 15mg 3xdaily.
Posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 2:33:41
In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant » rjlockhart98, posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 2:32:49
> > I take Adderall 40mg daily with lorazepam 1mg.
> >
> > THis indirectly makes the anxiety ease, but its not noticable, you know "feel it".
> >
> > I havent gone up to 2mg before, because i am throught with experimenting.
> >
> >
> > Does anyone else have a similar sitation?
>
> Yup--I take 1mg 4xdaily with Dexedrine 15mg 3xdaily.
>of Klonopin - sorry left that out.
Posted by paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 5:06:19
In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant, posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 2:33:41
Uppers+downers=okers?;>)
Thats the idea I believe?
Posted by Rjlockhart98 on April 21, 2005, at 5:37:43
In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant » jerrympls, posted by paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 5:06:19
dexamyl was a craze in the mid 60's. (Dexamphetamine 15mg/ Amobarbital 90mg) i looked up there ratio's.
I dont think it was really effective for alertness, just an anti-depressant, with a special label "verbally inhibited" patients. The old term for social anxiety.
Neither for ADHD, becuase it reduces locomotor actions of dextroamphetamine.
Ativan makes me do work at more ease, not OCD similar activity.
Posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 14:12:40
In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant, posted by Rjlockhart98 on April 21, 2005, at 5:37:43
Actually I have a 1956 AD for Dexamyl here
"This carefully balanced formula helps relieve BOTH anxiety and depression"
It states it was available in the following
-Tablet 5mgs Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
-Liquid Elixer!! 5cc=5mg Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
-10mg Spansule SR capsules 10mg Dextroamphetamine 1 grain Amobarbital
-15mg Spansule SR capsules 15mg Dextroamphetamine 1 1/2 grains Amobarbital1 Grain=40mgs
"A Barbiturate can also be administered with a centrally active sympathomimetic-amine such as Dextro amphetamine for the salutary effect of the combination on mood, anxiety, and tension"J.A.M.A-1956.
Posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 17:47:42
In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant » jerrympls, posted by paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 5:06:19
> Uppers+downers=okers?;>)
>
> Thats the idea I believe?Well, as you can probably agree stimulants can be "rough" meds physically and mentally. I've always been on a benzo when on a stimulant. But one time a doc made the comment "Geesh you're on uppers and downers.....etc." and it really set me off. I gave him a piece of my mind. He totally apologized.
Posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 18:13:29
In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant » paulbwell, posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 17:47:42
> > Uppers+downers=okers?;>)
> >
> > Thats the idea I believe?
>
> Well, as you can probably agree stimulants can be "rough" meds physically and mentally. I've always been on a benzo when on a stimulant. But one time a doc made the comment "Geesh you're on uppers and downers.....etc." and it really set me off. I gave him a piece of my mind. He totally apologized.
>
>Good for you dude,
They can pry my "uppers and downers" away from my cold stiff corpse.
Its life for me now, no more failures and losings, sick of that shi*
Cheers bro
Posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 18:29:45
In reply to Jerry » jerrympls, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 18:13:29
> > > Uppers+downers=okers?;>)
> > >
> > > Thats the idea I believe?
> >
> > Well, as you can probably agree stimulants can be "rough" meds physically and mentally. I've always been on a benzo when on a stimulant. But one time a doc made the comment "Geesh you're on uppers and downers.....etc." and it really set me off. I gave him a piece of my mind. He totally apologized.
> >
> >
>
> Good for you dude,
>
> They can pry my "uppers and downers" away from my cold stiff corpse.
>
> Its life for me now, no more failures and losings, sick of that shi*
>
> Cheers broDude- you can I have to meet sometime - you crack me up!! (in a good way). Do you ever get on AIM or Yahoo Messenger or MSN messenger? Maybe we could chat sometime? Babblemail me!
Jerry
Posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 19:57:30
In reply to Re: Jerry » Paulbwell, posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 18:29:45
> > > > Uppers+downers=okers?;>)
> > > >
> > > > Thats the idea I believe?
> > >
> > > Well, as you can probably agree stimulants can be "rough" meds physically and mentally. I've always been on a benzo when on a stimulant. But one time a doc made the comment "Geesh you're on uppers and downers.....etc." and it really set me off. I gave him a piece of my mind. He totally apologized.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Good for you dude,
> >
> > They can pry my "uppers and downers" away from my cold stiff corpse.
> >
> > Its life for me now, no more failures and losings, sick of that shi*
> >
> > Cheers bro
>
> Dude- you can I have to meet sometime - you crack me up!! (in a good way). Do you ever get on AIM or Yahoo Messenger or MSN messenger? Maybe we could chat sometime? Babblemail me!
>
> Jerry
>Yer I'm on MSN, I'd be happy to add ya
Posted by Mr.Scott on April 21, 2005, at 20:50:27
In reply to anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant, posted by rjlockhart98 on April 20, 2005, at 10:49:51
I take adderall & clonazepam. ask away..Scott
Posted by Mr.Scott on April 21, 2005, at 20:53:27
In reply to anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant, posted by rjlockhart98 on April 20, 2005, at 10:49:51
Posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 21:30:02
In reply to Re: Jerry » jerrympls, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 19:57:30
>
> Yer I'm on MSN, I'd be happy to add ya
>yeah "jerry_fantastic@hotmail.com"
Add me!!
Posted by vivi on April 21, 2005, at 21:36:40
In reply to Dexamyl, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 14:12:40
> Actually I have a 1956 AD for Dexamyl here
>
> "This carefully balanced formula helps relieve BOTH anxiety and depression"
>
> It states it was available in the following
> -Tablet 5mgs Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> -Liquid Elixer!! 5cc=5mg Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> -10mg Spansule SR capsules 10mg Dextroamphetamine 1 grain Amobarbital
> -15mg Spansule SR capsules 15mg Dextroamphetamine 1 1/2 grains Amobarbital
>
> 1 Grain=40mgs
>
>
> "A Barbiturate can also be administered with a centrally active sympathomimetic-amine such as Dextro amphetamine for the salutary effect of the combination on mood, anxiety, and tension"
>
> J.A.M.A-1956.Is dexamyl prescribed anymore? I have heard it was very addictive. It makes me wonder because I take Dexedrine.
Posted by jonh kimble on April 21, 2005, at 21:51:07
In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant » rjlockhart98, posted by Mr.Scott on April 21, 2005, at 20:50:27
Haha! Thats funny, dexamyl 50 years ago, take out the barb and replace with benzo. The strides are astounding. Its pathetic how advanced meds have emerged especially for anxiety and add. Bezone's thats the only now addition. and doctors still dont want to prescribe them because there addictive, hmm so were the barbs. Stupid IMOP. Thanks MrScott
I personally take what many others here take, an adderall + klonopin combo. Adderall can cause anxiety which is completely offset with an adequate klono dose. And being verbally inibited also goes down alot. Its a great mood, consentration and anxiety fix in one. But heres where we gotta talk. How Long have you all been on this sorta combo. I KNOW Ive developed some tolerance over the past maybe 6 months. This to means that each day more and more, its gonna work less and less. Its great but cant be done forever basically. But maybe this is not completely true? Any other opinions? I take about 3mgs klono and 30 mgs adderall / day. Maybe its true that after a couple dose adjustments, one can continue on his combination. Its unlikely many studies will be done if off patent benzoes and the infamous amphetamines will ever be done for things like deprssion and social anxiety which the big companies have everyone believing they can control with the single neurotransmitter serotonin. If I stop these meds, I return to normal, NOT worse which admittedly many do. But what im saying is if I and others can stop these drugs all of a sudden, not feel withdrawal, naturally still be anxious. Then maybe more should be said for this combo. I can say I would have dropped of college close to a daily basis if it were not for these meds. They get full credit for my successful year. About successful years plural thats what Im worried about. Tom
Posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 22:21:19
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by vivi on April 21, 2005, at 21:36:40
> > Actually I have a 1956 AD for Dexamyl here
> >
> > "This carefully balanced formula helps relieve BOTH anxiety and depression"
> >
> > It states it was available in the following
> > -Tablet 5mgs Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> > -Liquid Elixer!! 5cc=5mg Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> > -10mg Spansule SR capsules 10mg Dextroamphetamine 1 grain Amobarbital
> > -15mg Spansule SR capsules 15mg Dextroamphetamine 1 1/2 grains Amobarbital
> >
> > 1 Grain=40mgs
> >
> >
> > "A Barbiturate can also be administered with a centrally active sympathomimetic-amine such as Dextro amphetamine for the salutary effect of the combination on mood, anxiety, and tension"
> >
> > J.A.M.A-1956.
>
> Is dexamyl prescribed anymore? I have heard it was very addictive. It makes me wonder because I take Dexedrine.
>
>NO NO NO
'Goofballs' (Barbiturates+Amphetamine combos) went out after the now still standing 1970 controlled substances act came in to being, rescheduling meds into c1-c5 catagories
No more 'Goofballs' including the infamous 'Desbutal' (Methamphetamine+pentobarbital)!!
Desoxyn+Nembutal.
Posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 23:16:29
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 22:21:19
Nembutal was THEE BEST sleep I have EVER gotten in my life. I have the script still in my wallet that my pdoc wrote for it - but as I posted earlier they discontinued it Nov. 2004. UGH!!
Posted by Rjlockhart98 on April 21, 2005, at 23:29:17
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 22:21:19
i hate it when they say obsolete.
Anyway.
Posted by Phillipa on April 21, 2005, at 23:52:02
In reply to Re: Nembutal, posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 23:16:29
You may as well throw it away. A script is only valid for one year. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by jerrympls on April 22, 2005, at 0:18:40
In reply to Re: Nembutal » jerrympls, posted by Phillipa on April 21, 2005, at 23:52:02
> You may as well throw it away. A script is only valid for one year. Fondly, Phillipa
The script is from dec. 2004....?
Posted by Mr.Scott on April 22, 2005, at 1:08:36
In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant, posted by jonh kimble on April 21, 2005, at 21:51:07
I would anticipate tolerance and eventual ineficacy. Would love to be proven wrong though!
Posted by Phillipa on April 22, 2005, at 16:33:43
In reply to Re: anyone take antianxiety med with stimulant » jonh kimble, posted by Mr.Scott on April 22, 2005, at 1:08:36
Sorry Jerry, I had been gone all day, and have been reading the posts very quickly. My bust!
Posted by vivi on April 22, 2005, at 22:26:56
In reply to Re: Dexamyl » vivi, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 22:21:19
> > > Actually I have a 1956 AD for Dexamyl here
> > >
> > > "This carefully balanced formula helps relieve BOTH anxiety and depression"
> > >
> > > It states it was available in the following
> > > -Tablet 5mgs Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> > > -Liquid Elixer!! 5cc=5mg Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> > > -10mg Spansule SR capsules 10mg Dextroamphetamine 1 grain Amobarbital
> > > -15mg Spansule SR capsules 15mg Dextroamphetamine 1 1/2 grains Amobarbital
> > >
> > > 1 Grain=40mgs
> > >
> > >
> > > "A Barbiturate can also be administered with a centrally active sympathomimetic-amine such as Dextro amphetamine for the salutary effect of the combination on mood, anxiety, and tension"
> > >
> > > J.A.M.A-1956.
> >
> > Is dexamyl prescribed anymore? I have heard it was very addictive. It makes me wonder because I take Dexedrine.
> >
> >
>
> NO NO NO
>
> 'Goofballs' (Barbiturates+Amphetamine combos) went out after the now still standing 1970 controlled substances act came in to being, rescheduling meds into c1-c5 catagories
>
> No more 'Goofballs' including the infamous 'Desbutal' (Methamphetamine+pentobarbital)!!
> Desoxyn+Nembutal.Makes you wonder why it was prescribed in the first place? I guess M.D'S figured it would help depression. I can't imagine with the Dexedrine bringing you up and the Barbituate taking you down.
Now, Methamphetamine I have heard that is one of the worst drugs thats abused?
Posted by Paulbwell on April 23, 2005, at 0:19:24
In reply to Re: Dexamyl, posted by vivi on April 22, 2005, at 22:26:56
> > > > Actually I have a 1956 AD for Dexamyl here
> > > >
> > > > "This carefully balanced formula helps relieve BOTH anxiety and depression"
> > > >
> > > > It states it was available in the following
> > > > -Tablet 5mgs Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> > > > -Liquid Elixer!! 5cc=5mg Dextroamphetamine 1/2 grain Amobarbital
> > > > -10mg Spansule SR capsules 10mg Dextroamphetamine 1 grain Amobarbital
> > > > -15mg Spansule SR capsules 15mg Dextroamphetamine 1 1/2 grains Amobarbital
> > > >
> > > > 1 Grain=40mgs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "A Barbiturate can also be administered with a centrally active sympathomimetic-amine such as Dextro amphetamine for the salutary effect of the combination on mood, anxiety, and tension"
> > > >
> > > > J.A.M.A-1956.
> > >
> > > Is dexamyl prescribed anymore? I have heard it was very addictive. It makes me wonder because I take Dexedrine.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > NO NO NO
> >
> > 'Goofballs' (Barbiturates+Amphetamine combos) went out after the now still standing 1970 controlled substances act came in to being, rescheduling meds into c1-c5 catagories
> >
> > No more 'Goofballs' including the infamous 'Desbutal' (Methamphetamine+pentobarbital)!!
> > Desoxyn+Nembutal.
>
> Makes you wonder why it was prescribed in the first place? I guess M.D'S figured it would help depression. I can't imagine with the Dexedrine bringing you up and the Barbituate taking you down.
> Now, Methamphetamine I have heard that is one of the worst drugs thats abused?
>
>Aparently Barb+Amphet combos had a synegestic effect on each other, the Amphetamine improved mood and alertness, while the Barb, counteracted any anxiety or jitters it created, creating a smooth ride.
Elvis loved Desbutal.
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