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Posted by ed_uk on January 23, 2005, at 11:47:11
In reply to TO ED_UK, posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 11:19:45
Hi Jeroen,
Which antipsychotic are you going to try next? Clozapine (Clozaril/Leponex)?
>i feel better really, more energy, happyer
I really glad it's helping :-) I've also read that amantadine can have an antidepressant effect. The related drug memantine (Ebixa/Namenda) is apparantly being tested to see whether it will work as an antidepressant.
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 11:51:15
In reply to Re: Amantadine as an antidepressant » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 23, 2005, at 11:47:11
zyprexa 5 mg, im going to take it for 2 months
maybe it will solve my eye problemif that doesnt work, ill talk about my doctor about clozaril (im pretty scared about this medicine)
Posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 11:55:39
In reply to Re: Amantadine as an antidepressant, posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 11:51:15
hi, do you think 5 mg zyprexa will solve the eye problem? should i take 30 mg zyprexa?
i was almost blind when taking zyprexa 10 mg for 2 weeks, aggressive blinking
after 3 weeks i noticed my blinking was bit less but i discontinued the drug for the nasty weight gain
Posted by ed_uk on January 23, 2005, at 12:14:13
In reply to NEW POST FOR ED_UK, posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 11:55:39
Hi Jeroen,
It is possible that Zyprexa might reduce the blinking but it is also possible that it might make it worse.
I think you should try taking 2.5 or 5mg Zyprexa. 30mg is a very high dose.
Will you be going to see an ophthalmologist soon?
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 12:15:34
In reply to Re: To Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 23, 2005, at 12:14:13
i already did they suggested botox but i want to try it otherwise now
Posted by ed_uk on January 24, 2005, at 9:25:41
In reply to Re: To Jeroen, posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 12:15:34
Hi,
OK, keep me up to date on how you're doing :-)
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 24, 2005, at 14:12:12
In reply to Re: To Jeroen » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 24, 2005, at 9:25:41
i was wondering, i once took Seroquel but the sedation was high i was a zombie the next day
also i got taught my cat made me sick, it was her fault, i dont have these taughts when i am unmedicated
Please i need your help
Posted by Jeroen on January 24, 2005, at 18:13:18
In reply to TO ED_UK NEW, posted by Jeroen on January 24, 2005, at 14:12:12
hi, i just read TD is treatable or reversible with clozaril in general,
also a doctor sais it is reversable within 4 months, my 4 months are almost at an end... i need to do this dont you think? its my last hope to get rid of this...
im affraid to try Clozaril, but if its the only thing that might reverse my tardive dyskinesia
sorry about the urgent matter, but in a few days im going to discuss this with my psy doc...
Posted by ed_uk on January 25, 2005, at 9:36:22
In reply to TO ED_UK NEW, posted by Jeroen on January 24, 2005, at 14:12:12
Hello,
>a doctor sais it is reversable within 4 months, my 4 months are almost at an end... i need to do this dont you think? its my last hope to get rid of this...
No, it is not your last hope. What the doctor probably meant was that if TD is going to improve without treatment, it is most likely to do so within the first four months. TD can be successfully treated at any time.
>im affraid to try Clozaril, but if its the only thing that might reverse my tardive dyskinesia
Clozapine is not the only treatment, there are other treatments that we have discussed.
>also i got taught my cat made me sick, it was her fault, i dont have these taughts when i am unmedicated
Are you having strange thoughts? It could be the amantadine, sometimes amantadine worsens psychotic symptoms. Make sure that you tell your new psych doctor that you are taking amantadine.
Best Regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 10:33:14
In reply to Re: Clozapine » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 25, 2005, at 9:36:22
the only taught with amantadine was i felt much much better after a week on it, but i did had some taught maybe it was bit euphoria, that i will get cured of my problems, and in the future they can cure everybody perfectly, that theres an answer for everything, i felt good while having these taughts
amantadine caused these taughts... im affraid i will get psychosis of these taughts.. thats whats actually bothering me from the amantadine
seroquel did gave me strange taughts, i heared some people telling you can get psychotic when taking seroquel, im PRETTY sure i got it from that taughts that my cat made me sick and its her fault is not a normal taught, i usually think lot of my cat because of care of her, so these taught are PROOF that its bad!!! i REALLY DONT KNOW ANYMORE!!!!will Clozaril can make me also psychotic?
i dont want that, im VERY affraid!
Posted by ed_uk on January 25, 2005, at 11:16:21
In reply to Re: Clozapine, posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 10:33:14
Hi Jeroen,
What dose of amantadine are you taking at the moment?
>will Clozaril can make me also psychotic?
That would be very unlikely!
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 11:18:12
In reply to Re: Clozapine » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 25, 2005, at 11:16:21
100 mg of amantadine, its not helping for the eye problem, i think its a bit worse, but i feel much much better on this drug!!!
Posted by ed_uk on January 25, 2005, at 11:30:48
In reply to Re: Clozapine, posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 11:18:12
Hi,
>100 mg of amantadine, its not helping for the eye problem, i think its a bit worse, but i feel much much better on this drug!!!
Amantadine takes a while to help TD, you'll need to be patient!! I'm really pleased that you're feeling happier!
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 11:32:48
In reply to Re: Clozapine » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 25, 2005, at 11:30:48
my doc sais im very sensitive to meds, because GEODON 20 mgs gave me eye blinking and uncontrolled eye movement, these are one of the rare side effects,
will i get agruculosis from Clozapine, that my white blood cells all die?
Posted by ed_uk on January 25, 2005, at 11:48:57
In reply to Re: Clozapine, posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 11:32:48
Hello J,
>will i get agruculosis from Clozapine, that my white blood cells all die?
If your psychiatrist prescribes clozapine you'll need to have a blood test every week to make sure that you have enough white blood cells. About 1 to 2% of people treated with clozapine develop agranulocytosis. The fact that you experienced side effects from Geodon does not mean that you'll be any more likely than anyone else to develop agranulocytosis. If you did develop agranulocytosis you would have to stop clozapine. You would probably be treated with antibiotics and a drug called filgrastim which stimulates the body to make lots of new white blood cells.
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 12:13:20
In reply to Re: Clozapine » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 25, 2005, at 11:48:57
thanks for your help at this. my problem started at the age of 14, i went out a lot with friends, had fun
then the misery startedanxiety, social withrawal, paranoia, the fun was over, also at the beginning when i talked it was very slow speech, like i had low energy to do it. also my head was thicker when just it started, i felt watched also, i had a pale face
i also had taughts i was suffering from a disease like cancer. THIS IS A VERY STRANGE EXPERIENCE WHAT HAPPENED TO ME!!!
still no voices, no hallucinations, im 21 now, been treated with GEODON, taught it would be my magical cure, it made me sicker, gave me a disease i never would i expect i get, TD
at the end, someone above doesnt like me very much, im still happy that im alive but everything has it limitsIs this schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder? or another disease?
i heared these nasty conditions start at age of 14 years old...
i feel i am getting weaker and weaker every year.
Posted by ed_uk on January 25, 2005, at 12:48:36
In reply to Re: Clozapine, posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 12:13:20
Hi Jeroen,
>thanks for your help at this.
You're welcome Jeroen :-)
>Is this schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder?
I don't know, I'm not a psychiatrist! Have you asked your doctor for a diagnosis? What does s/he say? Do you have any paranoia at the moment? If you do, how has amantadine affected it?
If you do have schizophrenia, clozapine can be very effective. You'll need to start with a very small daily dose and increase gradually. Clozapine is often very sedating at first but the drowsiness reduces over time.
Posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 13:33:15
In reply to Re: Clozapine » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 25, 2005, at 12:48:36
i told him once, i had voices, but i was confused at that time, it wasnt that, then he diagnozed me with schizophrenia so sh*t, i never had voices.. i am 100% sure of that
is it that or not i dont know, those doctors where i am are very weird
Posted by TomG on January 25, 2005, at 13:33:27
In reply to Re: Clozapine, posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 12:13:20
>>also at the beginning when i talked it was very slow speech, like i had low energy to do it.
Wow. You are the first person I have heard with this symptom. I have it too. I have always had this. I think it is one of my most noticeable symptoms. I feel unusual talking because it feels like my speech is slow like it is in slow motion. And, it also feels like it takes an unusual amount of energy to speak. It feels like I am just plain stupid. However, Geodon worked wonders for all this for about two months and then I started to get sedated as you know. I am currently on no meds.
Posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 13:38:48
In reply to Re: Clozapine, posted by TomG on January 25, 2005, at 13:33:27
GEODON omg have you looked at their website? the movies of patients taking it, all talk like zombies
GEODON is EVIL!!!
Posted by ed_uk on January 26, 2005, at 13:58:56
In reply to Re: Clozapine, posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 13:33:15
>i told him once, i had voices, but i was confused at that time, it wasnt that, then he diagnozed me with schizophrenia so sh*t, i never had voices.. i am 100% sure of that
>is it that or not i dont know, those doctors where i am are very weirdHi Jeroen,
Why did you tell your doctor that you heard voices if you didn't?
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 26, 2005, at 14:02:44
In reply to Re: Clozapine » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 26, 2005, at 13:58:56
i was confused at that time, i took an anti depressant SIPRALEXA, i had lot of taughts at once, i also was hyper sexual, i had too much energy, i just taught it was that, somethimes im not smart sorry
i dont hear voices
Posted by ed_uk on January 26, 2005, at 15:44:38
In reply to Re: Clozapine, posted by Jeroen on January 26, 2005, at 14:02:44
Hi Jeroen,
>i was confused at that time, i took an anti depressant SIPRALEXA, i had lot of taughts at once, i also was hyper sexual, i had too much energy, i just taught it was that, somethimes im not smart sorry
Don't be sorry :-) Just explain to your psychiatrist that you got confused. Keep me up to date with your progress.
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 26, 2005, at 17:31:24
In reply to Re: Clozapine » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 26, 2005, at 15:44:38
i am now 5 days on amantadine
my eyes feel worse, the uncontrolled eye movements and eye blinking are worser... i am very dissapointed, but i feel better
Leponex will be my last hope, i know the weight gain is a problem but listen
i have important AXID Nizatidine from the united states
will it be a problem if i take this the first few months while on leponex? will it reduce some weight? is it dangerous?
then switch to amantadine IF the eye problem might be gone or cured?
i DO NOT WANT to live with this eye problem the rest of my life, if its like that... i am very confused right now im sorry
but i went to psychiatry today and saw a man with 1 leg, how must he be feeling????
i can tell one thing for sure, this world is doomed!
the geodon is a powerfull american drug, anti psychotic drug to feel better, WRONG!
i just read 50% who take this drug develop tardive dyskinesias, dystonia and other satan conditions that will ruin people for the rest of their lives.
I wanted a happy ending, go out with friends again, i guess god dont want me to be happy
i am starting to get taughts, the hell with everybody
my time has come!
Posted by ed_uk on January 27, 2005, at 11:51:34
In reply to TO ED_UK, posted by Jeroen on January 26, 2005, at 17:31:24
Hi Jeroen,
>i am now 5 days on amantadine
>my eyes feel worse, the uncontrolled eye movements and eye blinking are worser... i am very dissapointed, but i feel betterWith amantadine, improvement of TD will take time. The TD symptoms may temporarily get worse before they get better.
>Leponex will be my last hope.
That's just not true! There are several other treatments that may help. Did you discuss Leponex with your new psychiatrist?
>i have important AXID Nizatidine from the united states
>will it be a problem if i take this the first few months while on leponex? will it reduce some weight? is it dangerous?Nizatidine (Axid) might possibly be helpful in reducing the weight gain. Orlistat (Xenical) may also be helpful. Do not take any more medication without your doctors advice, you may create new problems for yourself. Be sure to tell your doctor that you are taking amantadine.
>I wanted a happy ending, go out with friends again, i guess god dont want me to be happy
You still can go out with friends. What do you like to do?
Ed.
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