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Posted by snapper on April 6, 2004, at 22:20:18
In reply to Re: OCD or BP? » snapper, posted by katia on April 6, 2004, at 21:01:36
> Hi,
> Yes I would like to hear more about that.
> The other interesting thing is, when I was on Effexor, I had less obsessions like this. things didn't bother as much. However, I couldn't tolerate it for 1. I'm BP (come to find out afterwards) and 2. I got those electrical shock w/drawals happening EVEN while ON it. much less, the w/drawal was a NIGHTMARE. Is there anything else that does it?
> I guess I have forgotten to mention these things to my pdoc. I guess i should. I was so caught up in my mood swings scenario that I forgot this aspect over the past year seeing him.
> KatiaKatia had this great post in reply to yours and after 10-15 min of composing it -- I lost it damn!!
Anyhow check out this link http://psycheducation.org; The Dr. who owns it is very knowledgable and goes into detail on how Bipolararity-OCD-and Social phobia all inter-relate to ea other!! Check it out and let me know what you think!!
If you have any other specific ?'s re OCD just post me and i'll try to answer you to the best of my ability!! I def do not claim to have all the answers.I am not an expert but have done quite abit of research and am starting to get a feel for what is going on!! So I guess that you could say that I am *obsessed* with trying to figure things out! oh yah the other link is http://www.ocdla.com
snapper
Posted by katia on April 7, 2004, at 2:46:03
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?, posted by snapper on April 6, 2004, at 22:20:18
Hey,
I clicked on most of the links for OCD and I can say that at one time in my life, I've experienced a few of them; i.e. body dysmorphic, panic attacks, hypochroniac, and phobias (spiders and ticks). But I tell you, everything under this OCD heading I feel I've gotten control over. Like I have outgrown a lot of it. I hate to say it that way, as though I had a hand in it (as tho' it's something I can control). But I really read thru' those categories and about 1/3 applied to me. And mostly in my teens/late teens and twenties. I have definitely developed a coping capacity. I have done a lot of meditation and so forth and wonder if this has to do w/ it. I've done so much work on mind over matter type of stuff that I think it's paying off, which feels good.Again, I could say at one time in my life, I can answer yes to about a 1/3 of those questions and subcategories of OCD. But now, I feel more developed in a sense. Like I don't let it get to me. And I feel blessed for that. Who knows what's around the bend though!
This is my question then about OCD. Does it come and go? I know my mood swings (BP) are also correlated w/ how "neurotic" I am w/ sound and noises. (that's my obesession - noises). I'm way more tolerant when I'm feeling stable mood wise. I guess mine is more of an offshoot from the mood disorder?
Katia
Posted by simus on April 7, 2004, at 7:23:39
In reply to Re: OCD or BP? » snapper, posted by katia on April 7, 2004, at 2:46:03
> This is my question then about OCD. Does it come and go? I know my mood swings (BP) are also correlated w/ how "neurotic" I am w/ sound and noises. (that's my obesession - noises). I'm way more tolerant when I'm feeling stable mood wise. I guess mine is more of an offshoot from the mood disorder?
> KatiaI get worse during times of stress, lack of sleep and not eating properly, and it varies depending on med. I have found that once the OCD med kicks in, I still have to make a conscious effort to overcome the habits that the OCD started (for instance, I can refuse to recheck to see if the doors are locked, iron is unplugged, etc.)
Posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 12:42:18
In reply to Re: OCD or BP? » snapper, posted by katia on April 7, 2004, at 2:46:03
Hey Katia, I'm glad you checked those links out and it made some sense to you. In regards to the noise thing, I can only therorize that any time we are having a hard time with mood swings and 'hyper-excitability' in out brain cells---it is going to make all our senses *hyper-alert* almost an on guard type of thing. I believe that is what makes us so miserable. Also I am glad that you seemed to have overcome or outgrown a lot of your problems. I am having a hell of a time right now with noise etc-I almost constantly have to have my cd/headphones on everyday to drown out the noise or lack of the correct type of noise! It sucks!! The telephone ringing kills me
and I specifically don't have one in my bedroom for that reason and I also do not use an alarm clock cause I have so much trouble staying in a good sleep, that I know I am going to wake up w/o one. Being overly sensetive to noises is called hyperacusis-anyhow I do know that when my moods get better and level out my noise thing tends to diminish to a large degree.I just seem to startle so easily -do you have the startle problem?
snapper
snapper
Posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 14:02:19
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?katia, posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 12:42:18
For Katia: p.s what meds are you currently on?
also if I failed to address your real question re :obsessing about sounds----I think that they are intricately connected -mood swings and obsessions!
snapper
Posted by katia on April 7, 2004, at 14:29:41
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?katia, posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 12:42:18
Hi Snapper,
Cool name. Where'd you come up w/ it?
I do startle easily sometimes. What is sounds like is being in the flight or fight/sympathetic nervous system always activated. We're on edge in fear and noises are the target/scapegoat?
who knows. I just so thankful mine's getting better. I'm taking Lamictal and Trileptal and Seroquel for sleep. Maybe that has something to do w/ it.
Maybe the fact that I just bought a house on my own is so wonderful, I can tolerate (more than before) the barking dog next door because I feel safe in my OWN! home.
and you're right, when I am out of balance mood wise and i"m tired - it's hell. Esp. snoring noises! that's probably why I don't have a boyfriend! I can't put up w/ the sleeping together!
Katia
Posted by simus on April 7, 2004, at 17:59:47
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?katia, posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 12:42:18
> I just seem to startle so easily -do you have the startle problem?
I wish you could ask my husband that and watch him roll his eyes. Every time he comes in a room now he will shuffle his feet or rattle a doorknob or something - just so I know he is there. If I am deep in thought and suddenly see someone standing there when I don't expect to, it isn't pretty. After my ear-piercing scream comes the heart racing and the dizzyness, and even sometimes tears. One time someone at work thought it would be "cute" to come up behind me and poke me in the ribs. After the scream, a couple of hundred sets of eyes were on us. I was just sitting there, shaking and embarrassed. His face got very red and he just disappeared. Not a banner day.
Posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 19:18:18
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?katia » snapper, posted by katia on April 7, 2004, at 14:29:41
> Hi Snapper,
> Cool name. Where'd you come up w/ it?
> I do startle easily sometimes. What is sounds like is being in the flight or fight/sympathetic nervous system always activated. We're on edge in fear and noises are the target/scapegoat?
> who knows. I just so thankful mine's getting better. I'm taking Lamictal and Trileptal and Seroquel for sleep. Maybe that has something to do w/ it.
> Maybe the fact that I just bought a house on my own is so wonderful, I can tolerate (more than before) the barking dog next door because I feel safe in my OWN! home.
> and you're right, when I am out of balance mood wise and i"m tired - it's hell. Esp. snoring noises! that's probably why I don't have a boyfriend! I can't put up w/ the sleeping together!
> KatiaHey Katia, man I did it again ..I had a really good post going to reply to you and I hit something on my computer and lost it!!!!!!!!! Anyhow >snapper, name< long story, but the basic is that I used to have this really cool and cute little dog, named snapper,she was very small and very hyper! (yorkie-poo mix) Kind of like what I used to be :) I don't have her any more, and I miss her but had to give her away because my mom could'nt keep up with her when my Illness got really bad!! I used to joke that she was like me! Only I think she was tri-polar! lol You are def right about the nervous system being on alert all the time! I wish mine would get better! Most of the meds I have been on over the last several years have done little to dampen that horrible startle response and it sucks. I live w/my sister and my folks right now , but sometimes just someone calling my name to ask me a simple question will make me jump. It makes me feel like I have PTSD, which I don't-at least not that I know of!! Lamictal, Seroquel, and Tri-leptal huh? Thats a tasty and simple little med cocktail! Is it working for you? I wish I was that simple. I see my pdoc next thur. and My little head is very busy trying to figure out what new things to try to make my head feel better. He is NOT big into poly-pharmacy , which is cool to a degree but at the same time I am miserable as hell. Congrats on your new home , I bet that really does give you some peace of mind and anything that gives us peace of mind is good for the ol' brain - I am hoping to get back to that point! I don't work right now! It sounds like you do, to own a home unless someone just blessed you !! lol--- I also don't have a girlfriend right now like you don't have a boyfriend... Not that I wouldnt' want one -its just that with my moods and anxieties and having to have my own space in bed and what not , I probably would drive her nuts. Snoring drives me nuts too, even though I do it, because I have sleep apnea! Speaking of which- sleeping disorders and mood dis-orders are very commonly co-morbid! Its a very frustrating health situation
-the very thing I need to feel better (proper sleep) is exacerbating my mood disorder and the freakin' drugs you need to help control your mood disorder tend to make you put on the lbs, which does nothing to help my sleep apnea, which in turn makes getting a proper nights rest very hard. I am seriously thinking of proposing the idea to my -pdoc that I need to be on a stim like adderall so I have the motivation to excercize, to lose some weight so I sleep better to in turn create a better mood state. Probably going to be a hard sell -But I need to do something! Hey I am bablin away again, so i'll let ya go! But keep in touch you're fun to talk to!! Sounds like we both have some of the same idiosyncrasies(sp)!
snapper
Posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 20:31:08
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?katia » snapper, posted by simus on April 7, 2004, at 17:59:47
simus, I don't know how bad you have it, but it sounds bad---I know people don't usually mean to scare the crap out of us - but sounds like your co-workers have no clue!! sorry !! I think it is one of the most disabling parts of having an anxiety disorder-I used to absolutely love the fouth of July and now I almost hate it-cuz you never can really predict where the next 'sudden '
earth shattering noise will come from-it huuuuuurtttssssss!! I am just glad I don't live in a big city where there is constant noise pollution I would go balistic!!
snapper
Posted by simus on April 7, 2004, at 21:41:48
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?katiasimus, posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 20:31:08
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I have it that bad. As a matter of fact, I never really thought about it as some sort of "symptom" until it was mentioned here. My husband is a very quiet-type person, and he just "appears" at times and scares the daylights out of me. We make a joke out of it, but he knows what it does to me and he does what he can to help (short of a cowbell). The kids are just kids - they couldn't sneak up if they tried. As far as the co-workers go, this happened just once years ago, and after that, no one dared do it again. LOL
Actually, the things we have been talking about, like being easily startled and being sensitive to noise are so little compared to the deep depression and panic attacks I used to have that I really don't think much about them anymore. The OCD can get frustrating at times, but is never debilitating. As a matter of fact, I think that the OCD, when it is somewhat under control, can actually help people in detailed oriented careers.
So sorry if I blew this out of proportion. A lot of my posts here have just been based on an "AHA!" reflex, from finding out what is behind some of my quirky little habits.
Posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 22:20:27
In reply to Re: OCD or BP? » snapper, posted by simus on April 7, 2004, at 21:41:48
Simus, no problem and no offense taken. I agree that OCD can def help with detail oriented careers
I used to run my biz like clock work and I really think it was to a point of too much obsession. I'm just looking to feel better too, like most on this board. The AHA reflex response is probably pretty common for a lot of people. I am glad that you have your anxiety and depression under control enough to be able to still work.I really miss it! My dep. makes me feel retarded (memory),and it's so dibilitating !
peace
snapper
Posted by simus on April 7, 2004, at 22:34:31
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?, posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 22:20:27
> I am glad that you have your anxiety and depression under control enough to be able to still work.I really miss it! My dep. makes me feel retarded (memory),and it's so dibilitating !
Sadly, I am not working. I started a total med adjustment in November. I worked a few hours in December and January, but finally had to go on extended sick leave in February. I just found out last week that a permanent replacement for me was found. It really was for the best, because even now after all the progress I have made, I still would not be able to handle the job.
Hang in there. I don't know how long you have been going through this, but I have been battling long enough to know that it can and does get better. Surprisingly, the memory does come back and all is not lost as I had originally feared at the beginning of this ordeal.
God bless.
Posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 22:54:51
In reply to Re: OCD or BP? » snapper, posted by simus on April 7, 2004, at 22:34:31
simus, sorry to hear you had to make the job transition! I have been going through this ordeal for 14 years now. I used to own my own business and the stress of it just made my underlying mood disorder worse and I lost *everything* in 98'
For a long while when I owned my biz, I was able to function. But the stress just compounded stress and so on... What kind of med changes did you have to go through?
snapper
Posted by simus on April 7, 2004, at 23:38:44
In reply to Re: OCD or BP? simus, posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 22:54:51
I have been going through this for nine years now. Well, the meds part of it anyway. I dealt with the OCD and the depression all my life, but when the panic attacks started, so did the meds. I started on Paxil (with Xanax), then went to Zoloft. I did ok on Zoloft for a couple of years. Then I switched to Effexor. I did quite well for a few years on Effexor, but the effects seemed to be waning. So in November my doctor started to wean me off Effexor and he added Lexapro. He also added Seroquel for insomnia and changed me from Xanax to Xanax XR. Well, in an attempt to make a long story shorter, I had withdrawal effects from the Effexor. Lexapro was not only ineffective, but I still faced the side effects. And three days on the Seroquel turned me into a zombie and threw me out of commission for almost three weeks just before Christmas. I developed an addiction to the Xanax XR, which I broke in January (then went back to a lower dose of regular Xanax just at bedtime for sleep). Then three weeks ago, my doctor took me off of the Lexapro and put me on 150mg of Wellbutrin XL. I saw immediate improvements. The depression started to lift the first day. The anxiety was not too bad. Still have OCD to some degree, but I always did have it to some degree. Insomnia was really rough the first week, but I made it. Just for the record, the insomnia goes way back. Wellbutrin just exaggerated it for a while. Now, the depression is gone and I have very little anxiety. The OCD is controllable. My memory and concentration are much improved, and sleep is a little easier to come by. I sleep in two 3-4 hour shifts. But hey, it's better than where I was a couple of months ago. And I keep improving. =) I have to deal with lower back pain now from all the weight I gained on ADs, expecially in the last three months. And my lack of movement from the back pain lately has caused severe edema in my feet and legs. But I can deal with that if I have my mind back.
Posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 23:55:38
In reply to Re: OCD or BP? » snapper, posted by simus on April 7, 2004, at 23:38:44
Simus, sound like the typical AD/benzo/weight gain/more health problems because of the original problem(s) dilema! It sucks! I was just telling my GP today that once your brain goes goofy, it seems inevitable that ill health will continue. I don't want to sound ultra negative but that is just how it seems!! Such a cascading effect - I want my brain back soooooooooo bad!! Glad you are doing better!!
snapper
Posted by katia on April 8, 2004, at 0:25:25
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?katia, posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 19:18:18
Hi Snapper,
Simple? Nope that's not the word for my med history. I've been doing a trial and error for almost two years now to get the right dx and then the rx. I think I may have it w/ this mix.
Keep in touch too. And yes, I am working.
Katia
Posted by snapper on April 8, 2004, at 0:58:47
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?katia » snapper, posted by katia on April 8, 2004, at 0:25:25
> Hi Snapper,
> Simple? Nope that's not the word for my med history. I've been doing a trial and error for almost two years now to get the right dx and then the rx. I think I may have it w/ this mix.
> Keep in touch too. And yes, I am working.
> Katia
Kati, I'm sorry If I made it sound as though the med protocol was a *nifty little mix*. Nothing about this Monster of an illness is simple. I really do hope for you that it is the right one!
I don't know If mentioned it to you or not but Today, thur the 8th is my last morn. to d/c Lamictal. I am hoping that I did'nt make a mistake by coming off of it (8) weeks because I think I really was getting some good mood lift from it and some motivation - however it was causing pretty bad upper back pain and a worsening of an already existing headache everyday
and some exacerbation of my already bad insomnia-
I see my doc next week and am going to throw out some ideas to him on possibly re-adding FXR to control my anxiety,panic and OCD-then possibly make another run with the Lam.
who knows ? time will tell. 2 yrs plus huh, I am sure you were most likely suffering emmensly for many years before finally being diagnosed and treated effectively,no?- I've been on this *crazy train for 14 yrs)!! Also just curious what would you say your major symptoms are or were that drove you mad and to get treatment!! I know thats a broad based question!
Just a general outline if you don't mind!!
thanks
snapper
Posted by katia on April 8, 2004, at 1:41:46
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?katia, posted by snapper on April 8, 2004, at 0:58:47
I see my doc next week and am going to throw out some ideas to him on possibly re-adding FXR to control my anxiety,panic and OCD-then possibly make another run with the Lam.
who knows ? time will tell. 2 yrs plus huh, I am sure you were most likely suffering emmensly for many years before finally being diagnosed and treated effectively,no?- I've been on this *crazy train for 14 yrs)!! Also just curious what would you say your major symptoms are or were that drove you mad and to get treatment!! I know thats a broad based question!
Just a general outline if you don't mind!!Hi Snapper,
I'm flattered you're interested in hearing my story. Yes, you said it right - I suffered immensely for many many years, not knowing WHAT was wrong w/ me and hiding it away, even from myself (denial) and hiding it from others (shame) but not understanding any of it.I'm 33 and only almost two years ago (summer of 01) did I seek treatment for depression. I do have a long story,but I'll try and be short b/c I'm tired! The first depression I can remember was when I was 11 - it was awful - questioning religion and the meaning of life. I went wild at 14 - went from a straight A student to the biggest rebel in the school. I think I experienced my first real manic/hypomanic episode when I was 17. I thought I'd just found the key to life mentally - life was my oyster and all that - I was out of control and high. Then I crashed into a real distinct depression six months later and didn't really come out since - other than the cycling of up and down - mainly mixed stuff. Depression being a BIG part of my history - all various degrees of it. I've had such a cyclical history in dealing w/ certain life circumstances coorelating w/ my highs and lows that I always assumed that it was circumstantial and not my mood swings. I've travelled all over the world - running away from it and also in "hypomanic" urges gets me to another country another job another love affair/boyfriend and always a crash.
Anyway, to try and be succinct, enough was enough about 6 years ago I got back into the country and started doing a lot of self-help stuff/therapy mediation, yoga, etc. healing herbs, energectic healings etc. hoping to find relief from my "demons" not understanding what I was going thru'. So enough of trying ALL there was to try short of a medical dx and meds, I ended up in another country w/ another boyfriend after giving up a job, my grad school, my place of living and had a big crash. BIG CRASH of an ending w/ him. Long long story, but I was a raving lunatic total mixed states severely depressed - wild. It was the worst time for me that summer. I came back from abroad and stayed at a friend's house during the breakup and pregnancy, which ended. I crawled around on the floor at all hours of the night howling, sobbing, scratching myself, not sleeping. I felt trully insane. And I still didn't get it that i was depressed. Many friends told me to get on ADs; which I eventually did. another story in itself. But something finally clicked in my brain that I needed help and I could find it. It's been like a second life to see my life thru' this different lens. Mind you, I spent an awful year on ADs that sent me spiralling hypomanic and zombie-like depressed. It wasn't working for me, finally I was dxed as BPII/Mixed and have been trying various MS since July.
That actually was the short version!
take care!
KAtia
p.s. what's your story?
Posted by snapper on April 8, 2004, at 2:00:13
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?katia » snapper, posted by katia on April 8, 2004, at 1:41:46
Katia, I'll fill ya in tommorrow . I am tired too and I feel a greatly needed good nights sleep comin on!!
till then,cool dreams to ya!
snapper
Posted by Minnie-Haha on April 11, 2004, at 17:25:50
In reply to Re: OCD or BP? » jdgjdg, posted by katia on April 5, 2004, at 23:38:37
> For me it's more about noise. I feel caged and induces anxiety when I'm stuck listening to unpleasant sounds. or a wierd one is when people jitter or shake their legs. it's been murder being a student. I'm surrounded by people shaking their legs during class. I can't explain it, but it drives me insane. I remember the first time it bothered me when I was 11 in a classroom and a big boy next to me shook his leg sooo fast all the time it drove me mad.
Here's something to throw in the mix. Have you considered that you might be simply hyper-sensitive to some forms of sensory input? This heightened state of awareness is called being "hypervigilant" and it is related to Sensory Integration Disorder (or DSI). Are you gifted? There is also a lot of what is called "overexcitabilty" in the gifted. Finally, do yo have an attention disorder? That is, are you easily distracted by things that others can tune out?
These are all similar and perhaps inter-related and maybe easy to mistake one for the other or have more than one. I have been learning about them over the past year or two because my son has some developmental problems -- and he's gifted -- and it's really made me stop and look at what I THOUGHT was "wrong" with me. I've changed my attitude about what is normal and abnormal and about (the subjectivity of) DXs!
Posted by snapper on April 11, 2004, at 21:29:50
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?, posted by Minnie-Haha on April 11, 2004, at 17:25:50
> > For me it's more about noise. I feel caged and induces anxiety when I'm stuck listening to unpleasant sounds. or a wierd one is when people jitter or shake their legs. it's been murder being a student. I'm surrounded by people shaking their legs during class. I can't explain it, but it drives me insane. I remember the first time it bothered me when I was 11 in a classroom and a big boy next to me shook his leg sooo fast all the time it drove me mad.
>
> Here's something to throw in the mix. Have you considered that you might be simply hyper-sensitive to some forms of sensory input? This heightened state of awareness is called being "hypervigilant" and it is related to Sensory Integration Disorder (or DSI). Are you gifted? There is also a lot of what is called "overexcitabilty" in the gifted. Finally, do yo have an attention disorder? That is, are you easily distracted by things that others can tune out?
>
> These are all similar and perhaps inter-related and maybe easy to mistake one for the other or have more than one. I have been learning about them over the past year or two because my son has some developmental problems -- and he's gifted -- and it's really made me stop and look at what I THOUGHT was "wrong" with me. I've changed my attitude about what is normal and abnormal and about (the subjectivity of) DXs!
>Hi, Minnie, thanks for your post and reply....Until dpression and severe anxiety hit me hard , I was 'gifted' in some areas of my life-the hypervigilant thing for me is not just a component of being hyper-aware of my surroundings-rather the opposite ..I am hyper-vigilant because of the anxiety and depression and some possible PTSD- my experiences of being hyper aware and hyper- vigililant are VERY painful in a physical way. Loud telephones the shrill of a dog's bark -sometimes a gentle voice from the other room is enought to make me want to jump out of my skin!!
Maybe you and your son also experience these unpleasantries as well but for me at least, it is enough to not want to even go out in public---Grocery stores, flouresecent(sp) lighting, people talking all at once...It is very well likely that I do have some sensory intergration problems and some attentional deficiencies etc. I do know that when my depression and anxiety improve, these smptoms usually also improve, but I am not sure to what degree. Right now I am minimally medicated and probably will need to go on something again to help all the 'crossed wires in my brain'. I sometimes feel like "Rainman" -even though I am not autistic nor do I have any other developmental difficulties, sometimes I think that the severity of my depression, and anxiety -accentuate my hyper-excitable states! Right now and for the last year or so, at least-my brain feels like "one giant mental scream"! lol - ooucch!!
snapper
Posted by simus on April 11, 2004, at 22:44:17
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?, posted by Minnie-Haha on April 11, 2004, at 17:25:50
Thanks for the insight. I never knew that.
Posted by katia on April 12, 2004, at 5:41:31
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?, posted by Minnie-Haha on April 11, 2004, at 17:25:50
Hi Minnie,
When you asked "are you gifted?" What do you mean by that??
Thanks for so much input. must go nightey nightey now.
Katia
> Here's something to throw in the mix. Have you considered that you might be simply hyper-sensitive to some forms of sensory input? This heightened state of awareness is called being "hypervigilant" and it is related to Sensory Integration Disorder (or DSI). Are you gifted? There is also a lot of what is called "overexcitabilty" in the gifted. Finally, do yo have an attention disorder? That is, are you easily distracted by things that others can tune out?
>
> These are all similar and perhaps inter-related and maybe easy to mistake one for the other or have more than one. I have been learning about them over the past year or two because my son has some developmental problems -- and he's gifted -- and it's really made me stop and look at what I THOUGHT was "wrong" with me. I've changed my attitude about what is normal and abnormal and about (the subjectivity of) DXs!
>
Posted by Minnie-Haha on April 12, 2004, at 11:51:46
In reply to Re: OCD or BP? » Minnie-Haha, posted by katia on April 12, 2004, at 5:41:31
> Hi Minnie,
> When you asked "are you gifted?" What do you mean by that??
> Thanks for so much input. must go nightey nightey now.
> KatiaWell, there are several definitions of gifted, but the simplest one for this discussion is: Is your IQ one or more standard deviations above normal? (Normal is 100 and every 15 points above or below is one standard deviation.) For ONE article on "overexcitability" in the gifted go to http://www.sengifted.org/articles_social/Lind_OverexcitabilityAndTheGifted.shtml
As for DSI (Sensory Integration Disorder or Dysfunction), most of the info out there is about kids, but kids with DSI grow up to be adults with DSI, regardless of what kinds of coping skills they learn.
Posted by katia on April 18, 2004, at 0:42:49
In reply to Re: OCD or BP?, posted by Minnie-Haha on April 11, 2004, at 17:25:50
Hi anyone who has input on the subject!
Minnie HaHA, has your son been dxed w/ anything? Is there any cure for SID? I think that's what I suffer from. It's so wierd and insane; it's hard to put into words. I just get completely overwhelmed by sensory input; clocks, dogs, snoring, TV, not so nice music; visual input, legs moving/shaking when someone is sitting drives me bonkers BONKERS. I feel caged, trapped, angry and overwhelmed, anxious and extremely stressed and tense. ALL FROM SOMEONE WIGGLING THEIR FOOT!! Has anyone heard of anything so bizarre? It's hell being me. HELL.
Any input would be great (as long as it's not sensory!);-).
Katia> > For me it's more about noise. I feel caged and induces anxiety when I'm stuck listening to unpleasant sounds. or a wierd one is when people jitter or shake their legs. it's been murder being a student. I'm surrounded by people shaking their legs during class. I can't explain it, but it drives me insane. I remember the first time it bothered me when I was 11 in a classroom and a big boy next to me shook his leg sooo fast all the time it drove me mad.
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> Here's something to throw in the mix. Have you considered that you might be simply hyper-sensitive to some forms of sensory input? This heightened state of awareness is called being "hypervigilant" and it is related to Sensory Integration Disorder (or DSI). Are you gifted? There is also a lot of what is called "overexcitabilty" in the gifted. Finally, do yo have an attention disorder? That is, are you easily distracted by things that others can tune out?
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> These are all similar and perhaps inter-related and maybe easy to mistake one for the other or have more than one. I have been learning about them over the past year or two because my son has some developmental problems -- and he's gifted -- and it's really made me stop and look at what I THOUGHT was "wrong" with me. I've changed my attitude about what is normal and abnormal and about (the subjectivity of) DXs!
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