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Posted by Caleb96 on November 27, 2003, at 20:37:38
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?, posted by Sean P on November 27, 2003, at 14:10:47
I posted my story on another thread back in Spetember. I hope it will be of use to heavy drinkers. Alcohol is poison when abused for years.
In reply to Alcohol Sucks!, posted by BarbaraCat on September 1, 2003, at 13:45:17
Dear BarbCat:
Unfortunately alcohol does suck for a lot of us. My 79 year-old dad can have his ONE martini before dinner every night. He's been doing that for close to 60 years. In my 45 years, I've never seen him drunk or out of control. He still works, not because he has to, but because he enjoys it. He's never had health problems, lost his house, family or a job, had a DUI, or ruined a friendship because of alcohol. He can drink because he can control his intake.
As for his son--myself--he can't touch the stuff. About five years ago, I was rushed to the hospital with excruciating abdominal pain. Twenty years of heavy, steadily increasing alcohol consumption--starting in college--had finally caught up with me. I thought I DESERVED to drink because of all the stress I had to deal with on the job.
At the hospital, they ran all the blood chem tests, took x-rays, did ultrasound on my gall bladder, even did a colonoscopy. I still remember the ER doctor squinting at my x-ray--trying hard to find an explanation for my unbearable pain. My wife sat beside me in tears, holding my hand as if she was about to lose me for good. Finally the test results came back. Everything was normal except some slightly elevated enzymes. I could see the doctor still pacing up and down the freshly polished hallway, still holding my x-ray up to the fluorescent lights.
Finally, he walked back into my small examining room. "Do you drink?", he asked.
"Yes", I sheepishly said.
"How much?"
"Probably too much," I answered, dreading what I knew was coming next. How will I ever get through life without alcohol?, I thought to myself.
"On average, how much would you say you drink in a week?", the doctor asked.
I responded, "about a bottle of wine a day." This was definitely a under-estimate when you consider all the bottles of extra stout beer and 86 proof scotch I kept hidden in my basement workshop. There was also the half-gallon of 100 proof Vodka I kept in the kitchen liquor cabinet. A good stiff shot of that in between glasses of wine or beer really hit the spot. I'd be flying. No more problems to worry about!
Or so I thought.
"Mr. C-----," said the doctor, "what you have is an acute case of pancreatitis, and I'm pretty sure in your case it was brought on by chronic, heavy alcohol intake. Now, pancreatitis is--as I'm sure you're aware--generally considered one of the top ten most painful medical conditions. It's your pancreas literally digesting itself. For reasons we're not totally sure of, chronic alcohol consumption can trigger your pancreas to release its digestive enzymes within the organ itself."
Of course, I knew this all too well since I was finishing my PhD in nutrition. My God, I should have known better I thought to myself!
He continued, "In about 10% of the cases, it's fatal. Now, you're still young and in relatively good health. We treat cases like yours by giving IV fluids, painkillers, and withholding food until your pancreas has a chance to heal itself. Fortunately in your case, you should be better in a day or two."
"But"--he added--"if you continue to drink this problem will recur, and each time it will be more painful and more damaging, until...well, there just won't be anything we'll be able to do for you. Statistically, from the time a person is first hospitalized due to alcohol, if they continue to drink, their life expectancy is 15 years."
"You have a beautiful wife who loves you very much, and you can have a long, full life--but you have to stop drinking."That was probaly the best advice anyone has ever given me. And I took it.
At first, I went to a few AA meetings, but I found that I couldn't really relate to all the tragic experiences these people had gone through. It just wasn't for me. But I would never put it down because it does help many people. I found it was just easier for me to quit and not think about it. If I'm at a party and someone tries to give me a drink, I just tell them I don't drink. If they get too pushy, I'll tell them I'm an alcoholic. It's not something I'm ashamed of. I would be ashamed if I still drank.
So that's my story. I can't tell you how many months, days, hours, etc. I've been sober. That kind of trivia is irrelevant to me. I can only tell you I'm much happier and healthier since I made the decision to be sober for life.
So good luck on your quest to sobriety. You recognize you have a problem and that's the most important start. Now figure out what route you want to take to kick alcohol for good. You can do it.
Best wishes--Caleb
Posted by dms777smd on November 30, 2003, at 23:50:09
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?, posted by Sean P on November 16, 2003, at 17:23:59
You know,,,,I feel the same when I drink.Have you ever thought about withdrawals???I used to go through those bad,but now I drink,,,then the next day I feel like I'm going through it again kinda...Fast heart,sweating,sometimes hallucinations.A lot.
Posted by KimberlyDi on December 1, 2003, at 13:03:26
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?, posted by Caleb96 on November 27, 2003, at 20:37:38
Caleb:
Thank you for that post. It helps to remember that there is peace out there for the sober, and a reason to feel proud instead of ashamed.
I know pride is sinful but I believe it is better for the non-practicing alcoholic to focus on the good things of today instead of the failures in the past.
God Bless
KDi in TX
Posted by Sean P on December 1, 2003, at 20:12:20
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿? » Sean P, posted by dms777smd on November 30, 2003, at 23:50:09
I didn't really know you could get withdrawls from doing it just on the weekends mainly :( I didn't know the symptoms of it man, but yes it is possible because I binge drink on the weekends usually. My heart doesn't really race all day anymore like it did because of supplements I take like Niacin and Magnesium, but the weird feel and panic type attacks still come, and the adrenaline type rushes in your body still come bad. I wake up at 7 or 8 usually with them and have trouble sleeping on and off after that. I don't know what it is, but I am on Candida stuff right now and my anxiety is doing alot better and I am not fiending to drink anymore that much! None at all during the week, infact I didn't even drink Saturday for once. Candida can cause anxiety and yeast, sugar and carbs feed it, all in beer, so some in here could have that too and it gets a ton worse with alcohol. I get a sore throat after drinking and can't breath the next day hardly, really annoying and scary.
Sean> You know,,,,I feel the same when I drink.Have you ever thought about withdrawals???I used to go through those bad,but now I drink,,,then the next day I feel like I'm going through it again kinda...Fast heart,sweating,sometimes hallucinations.A lot.
Posted by Sean P on December 1, 2003, at 20:38:37
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?, posted by treb on November 20, 2003, at 23:48:40
http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/withdraw/a/aa030307a.htm
I have no doubt it is withdrawls now, I didn't know that you could just be a weekend drinker for years and get bombed and sooner or later get these!!! It says you don't have to drink everyday to get them, it depends on how much you drink when you drink too, and with the symptoms I get mild ones no doubt, I even hallucinated one night after getting these stupid things, and it wasn't the night after I was even drinking (I heard my moms voice and jumped up and so on, was very confused out of my sleep). Withrawls are what it seems everyone who is on here has, even weekend drinkers, I guess you get them after years of drinking and your body becomes dependant on it and your blood levels of alcohol drops, you need more to even you out again. I know what it is now, thanks.
Posted by Marlin on December 1, 2003, at 22:08:16
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?, posted by Sean P on December 1, 2003, at 20:12:20
Hey Sean, I've recently looked into the possibility of having too much Candida and purchased some bottles of stuff at a nutrition store. I almost went to see my doctor first, but figured it wasn't worth the trouble since treatment is harmless. Did you get an official diagnosis before you started your Candida treatment? And what are you using? Web searches always turn up this Three Lac stuff... but it's expensive... plus it's a multi-level marketing company that's pushing it.
Posted by Sean P on December 2, 2003, at 11:56:16
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?, posted by Marlin on December 1, 2003, at 22:08:16
I did the spit test for Candida in the water that they say is 100% accurate on the threelac page, it looked exactly like they said it would, plus I am having die off symptoms from the threelac as we speak!!!! I didn't really need a diagnosis because I have read and know someone who told me the cleanse or probiotics etc. are very safe at a natural grocer, plus she deals with Candida and said your symptoms are all pointing to that. Threelac is working bettert than anything I have used so far, the price so far has been well worth it, plus if you get it and gake one packet a day it will last for two months (It says stay on it for three months to make sure it is getting rided from your body). I am going to a Doctors soon to discuss this with him no doubt, but for now I am just using Threelac and it appears to be VERY GOOD. I will keep you posted.
> Hey Sean, I've recently looked into the possibility of having too much Candida and purchased some bottles of stuff at a nutrition store. I almost went to see my doctor first, but figured it wasn't worth the trouble since treatment is harmless. Did you get an official diagnosis before you started your Candida treatment? And what are you using? Web searches always turn up this Three Lac stuff... but it's expensive... plus it's a multi-level marketing company that's pushing it.
Posted by dms777smd on December 2, 2003, at 14:58:15
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?, posted by Sean P on December 1, 2003, at 20:12:20
Yea,I sometimes get a sore throat the next day and it is hard to breathe.I think the sore throat is due to dehydration cause I also wake up with cracked lips sometimes.It is very scary,,,we need to stop abusing our bodies like this.You know we can't live like this forever./////// What is this Candida that you're talking about???
Posted by KimberlyDi on December 2, 2003, at 16:05:40
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿? » Sean P, posted by dms777smd on December 2, 2003, at 14:58:15
Alcoholics, especially those that have a weakness for whiskey shots, can have numerous throat/lung problems... anywhere from chronic bronchitus to even throat cancer (if i remember it correctly). The fumes from alcohol are hazardous to ones respiratory system. Definately an irritant.
The dehydration is a serious concern (alcohol is a diuretic). Hospitals will try to treat that right off through an IV. I've heard that orange juice & banannas are recommended if you're withdrawaling at home (to replace zinc & potassium?) If one couldn't keep anything down, it would be time to see the doctor and ask for something for the naseau and if you're lucky, librium for outpatient withdrawal. My combo for surviving was cherry coolaide & chicken noodle soup (not mixed together).
Regards to earlier posts about the weekend bingers... two 5ths of Jack Daniels (3000 calories a piece) consumed within 48 hours can leave a weekend drinker contemplating the wonders of withdrawal.
You've got nowhere to go but down if you continue the pattern. I haven't had to suffer from that for over 1.5 years. My whole life had to change.
Candida, I believe, is a reacurring yeast infection. Guess what an alcohol abuser has a high level of? high blood sugar levels!! and yeast thrives on that.
KDi in TX
> Yea,I sometimes get a sore throat the next day and it is hard to breathe.I think the sore throat is due to dehydration cause I also wake up with cracked lips sometimes.It is very scary,,,we need to stop abusing our bodies like this.You know we can't live like this forever./////// What is this Candida that you're talking about???
Posted by Sean P on December 2, 2003, at 17:02:32
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿? » Sean P, posted by dms777smd on December 2, 2003, at 14:58:15
Okay I can tell you a little bit man, but you might want to search Google and Metacrawler for more symptoms. Candida is the unfriendly bacteria we get in our stomachs when we use antibiotics from a Doctor (Have you used some?) or eat sugars, carbs and so on, it feeds and grows on those sort of foods, hence Beer has sugars and Carbs (Yeast too) etc. in it, which in case can make you have a flair up and feel really weak or sick the next day. When we have enough good bacteria equal with the bad bacteria (Candida or Yeast) your system is running alot better and the good bacteria can stop toxins from entering your blood stream and other parts of your body, but when that fine balance is thrown off you can get really sick and develop allergies to food and environment, anxiety, depression, cloudy head, itching, dry skin and so on, your immune system weakens and can't filter toxins as well, hence beer as a toxin and your body not being able to filter it as well through the liver and so on. It is a very hard condition to get rid of but it is possible with diet and certain acidophilus, bacteria, lactic acid and so on products, I myself am using Threelac where there is supposed to be no diet needed, plus drinking apple Cider Vinegar in water 3 times a day (2 tsp) for enzymes. Alchohol consumption over time kills good bacteria and brings on yeast and bad bacteria and they continue to thrive the more you drink, which can lead to various health problems sooner or later. Hope I helped you some, if not look it up on the net or buy a book about Leaky Gut disorders and Candida.
> Yea,I sometimes get a sore throat the next day and it is hard to breathe.I think the sore throat is due to dehydration cause I also wake up with cracked lips sometimes.It is very scary,,,we need to stop abusing our bodies like this.You know we can't live like this forever./////// What is this Candida that you're talking about???
Posted by Sean P on December 2, 2003, at 17:05:40
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿? » dms777smd, posted by KimberlyDi on December 2, 2003, at 16:05:40
You hit everything right on the head, great post and great analyses on Candida and what it thrives off of, BEER and LIQUOR, plus it can cause Hypoglycemia like you said. Yes you drink OJ and eat fruits to recover your minerals, I have a mix at home I use to do that I found off the net, but like you said not doing it in the first place is the right idea!!! Great post.
> Alcoholics, especially those that have a weakness for whiskey shots, can have numerous throat/lung problems... anywhere from chronic bronchitus to even throat cancer (if i remember it correctly). The fumes from alcohol are hazardous to ones respiratory system. Definately an irritant.
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> The dehydration is a serious concern (alcohol is a diuretic). Hospitals will try to treat that right off through an IV. I've heard that orange juice & banannas are recommended if you're withdrawaling at home (to replace zinc & potassium?) If one couldn't keep anything down, it would be time to see the doctor and ask for something for the naseau and if you're lucky, librium for outpatient withdrawal. My combo for surviving was cherry coolaide & chicken noodle soup (not mixed together).
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> Regards to earlier posts about the weekend bingers... two 5ths of Jack Daniels (3000 calories a piece) consumed within 48 hours can leave a weekend drinker contemplating the wonders of withdrawal.
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> You've got nowhere to go but down if you continue the pattern. I haven't had to suffer from that for over 1.5 years. My whole life had to change.
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> Candida, I believe, is a reacurring yeast infection. Guess what an alcohol abuser has a high level of? high blood sugar levels!! and yeast thrives on that.
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> KDi in TX
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> > Yea,I sometimes get a sore throat the next day and it is hard to breathe.I think the sore throat is due to dehydration cause I also wake up with cracked lips sometimes.It is very scary,,,we need to stop abusing our bodies like this.You know we can't live like this forever./////// What is this Candida that you're talking about???
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Posted by Marlin on December 13, 2003, at 10:54:08
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?, posted by Sean P on December 2, 2003, at 11:56:16
Hey Sean,
What are your die-off symptoms?? And how is your treatment going? I just bought 3-lac + Oxidation thing.
Posted by Sean P on December 13, 2003, at 16:56:36
In reply to Candida die-off symptoms, posted by Marlin on December 13, 2003, at 10:54:08
> Hey Sean,
> What are your die-off symptoms?? And how is your treatment going? I just bought 3-lac + Oxidation thing.My die offs are sour stomach, burning down in my stomach, feeling flu like symptoms, cloudy head, sore throat, anxiety, depression, constipation :(, cloudy head and tired feeling. It isn't bad at all though very tolerable, just a little rough at first. Good going doing the first step in getting rid of Candida. Check your mouth for Mercury fillings too as they can cause Candida and all of these symptoms we mention in here, that could be your problem (It is mine)....
Posted by mtdew on December 15, 2003, at 22:57:06
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?!?!?, posted by panic_attack on November 12, 2003, at 10:22:01
I get that effect from alcohol, and I am 99.9% sure it's hypoglycemia. It's much worse if you drink sugary mixed drinks like gin and tonics or rum and cokes. And I am not an alcoholic -- far from it. If you continue drinking, you'll probably have better luck with light beer or dry wine, and have no sugar or starch with it. Personally, I have given up alcohol, along with all sugar and simple starches. It sucks, but the benefit in mental and physical health was tremendous.
If you find yourself in that awful state -- shaky, weak, anxious -- try having some sugar or starch and see if it goes away.
mtdew
> Hey guys... well its been over a year since I posted this babble and I must admit that I am still having the same problems. I am now 23 years old and unemployed :( I got fired b cuz of my drinking. I was always so ill that I had to call out of work alot. I was their best employee... they loved me but they had to do what they had to do. Now I am going on 1 week sober (and counting) and need to find another job. Im sick of feeling sick. I wish that I can quit drinking 100%. Everybody I know drinks... we live in South Beach so there are always parties and events going on. My friends drink like fishes and have no complaints the next morning whereabout I feel like dying. They all think im crazy but they have no idea how sick I get. I shake... I cant do anything.. cant go outside.. .wont answer the phone... cant breathe right... heart plays tricks on me... feel so weak that I could die BUT I cant sleep. I thought I was the only one that experienced this. Surprised to see other posts with people w/ same experience. I had a drug overdose and thats why Im having these problems. Just cant party like I use to. Gotta slow down!! We'll see what happens.
Posted by bumblebee on December 19, 2003, at 15:08:07
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?!?!?, posted by mrporter1 on November 13, 2003, at 13:19:47
I am a 24 year old female and i was having the same problem for years.I used to drink very heavly. like almost a whole case by my self through out the night, just way to much for one person and being only 115 @ 5 11' that was quite a bit of beer. well anyways the next morning i would have really bad panic attacks and like i would wonder how my friends were all ready to go again the next night.{they had drank just as much as i had} it was just like i was dying i would shake real bad, vomit get cold sweats just feel in a daze all day and sometimes 2 days after. of course i know a case of beer would proboly make anyone sick but that wasnt always the case,sometimes i would only have a six..and feel just as horrible..i mean i feel sick sometimes {most of the time} when i smoke a ciggerette i get a real bad belly ache. i think its just a way of my body saying,, hey this shit aint good for you stop doing it.. and i have stopped drinking like i used to.. people do go through stages of drinking. like me i live in a small town and thats all everyone does and when i turned 21 hey i was doin it too. but i grew up and realized that it wasnt good for me so i stopped, i know its hard caz like everyone{well not every one} in yer age group drinks but you gotta be the one who says when its time to stop and if ya dont then in the long run you might not be able too
Posted by bumblebee on December 19, 2003, at 15:24:27
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?!?!?, posted by Sean P on November 12, 2003, at 21:42:23
> One more thing, I have been catching overwhelming speedy thoughts this last week or two and can't slow it down for an hour or so, it's just sped up so much it's annoying! I also wake up some nights and have hallucinations while I am half asleep like seeing something and jumping up and nothing there, plus hearing a voice and waking up but it's the middle of the night and once again half asleep and confused it's crazy! Anyone ever wake up with the heart skipping and seeing things? I am not even drunk when I do it, but it is really scary lately! I am going to take my B Vitamins in full and Vitamin C to stop a deficiency and tell you guys if it really helps out, if it does I would be glad to tell you guys how well it does.
i found this while surfin and it made me think of yer entry...
Acute Abstinence Syndrome
When the blood alcohol drops below a certain level in the chronic stage alcoholic, the drinker will experience symptoms of the acute abstinence syndrome (AAS). AAS is what causes alcoholics to drink again within a few hours of their last drink, eventually causing them to drink in the morning or even in the middle of the night. They must maintain certain blood alcohol levels or experience withdrawal symptoms because the body has developed a need for alcohol. If the alcoholic is unable to get alcohol or chooses to abstain, AAS symptoms can become severe and last from one to ten days. There are two types of AAS. In Type I there are five stages of acute withdrawal. Stage I is marked by hyperactivity of the nervous system. This takes the form of the following symptoms:
1. Tremors
2. Loss of appetite
3. Sweating
4. Nausea, vomiting
5. Low stress tolerance
6. Hyperactivity
7. Confusion
8. Poor memoryThe next stage is hallucinosis. Although persons know who they are and where they are, reality around them becomes distorted. There is the illusion that things are happening which are not happening. Objects may appear to move, noises may be heard, physical sensations may be experienced which in reality are not occurring. The person may be aware that things are not as they are perceived, but the strong illusion creates confusion, fear, and even panic.
The next stage is delirium and disorientation. At this point persons lose touch with reality and become confused as to where and who they are. Hallucinations usually occur with the belief that they are real. The person is confused, excited, incoherent, and frightened
Posted by dms777smd on December 20, 2003, at 13:27:11
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?!?!?, posted by bumblebee on December 19, 2003, at 15:24:27
> > One more thing, I have been catching overwhelming speedy thoughts this last week or two and can't slow it down for an hour or so, it's just sped up so much it's annoying! I also wake up some nights and have hallucinations while I am half asleep like seeing something and jumping up and nothing there, plus hearing a voice and waking up but it's the middle of the night and once again half asleep and confused it's crazy! Anyone ever wake up with the heart skipping and seeing things? I am not even drunk when I do it, but it is really scary lately! I am going to take my B Vitamins in full and Vitamin C to stop a deficiency and tell you guys if it really helps out, if it does I would be glad to tell you guys how well it does.
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of yer entry...
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> The next stage is hallucinosis. Although persons know who they are and where they are, reality around them becomes distorted. There is the illusion that things are happening which are not happening. Objects may appear to move, noises may be heard, physical sensations may be experienced which in reality are not occurring. The person may be aware that things are not as they are perceived, but the strong illusion creates confusion, fear, and even panic.
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> The next stage is delirium and disorientation. At this point persons lose touch with reality and become confused as to where and who they are. Hallucinations usually occur with the belief that they are real. The person is confused, excited, incoherent, and frightened
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you nreally need to think about widrawals,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I've been through the worst of them and it includes hallucinations,tremors,convulsions,seizures,insomnia,trouble talking to anyone,feeling ,like you're going to die(or have a heart attack)and much much more.Just please try to slow down on the drinking, I know it's hard,but you need to do it before you get like me.Very very scary.Please take my advice and try to at least cut down????????OK?????
Posted by dms777smd on December 20, 2003, at 13:32:58
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?!?!?, posted by bumblebee on December 19, 2003, at 15:08:07
That's very good that you stopped,,,,,,,all you're doing is killing yourself slowly,and I learned the same thing.Withdrawals suck like hell,but the only way you can avoid them is to not drink at all.,,,,,LOVE YOU
Posted by phunz on December 21, 2003, at 10:28:32
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?!?!?, posted by Sean P on November 13, 2003, at 10:11:45
> Oh yeah Carolee silly me to forget, the marijuana started the panic attacks in high school, only when I was too high did I get them but they came then, slowly started coming when I was sober soon after high school. Drugs do change your neurotransmitters I am afraid, what is a panic attack when you are high can come when you are sober one fine day after that, good looking pointing that out.
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potent drugs such as marijuana (lsd is best know for this) can cause latent mental problems *now*.
Posted by Sean P on December 21, 2003, at 18:12:19
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?!?!?, posted by phunz on December 21, 2003, at 10:28:32
> > Oh yeah Carolee silly me to forget, the marijuana started the panic attacks in high school, only when I was too high did I get them but they came then, slowly started coming when I was sober soon after high school. Drugs do change your neurotransmitters I am afraid, what is a panic attack when you are high can come when you are sober one fine day after that, good looking pointing that out.
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> potent drugs such as marijuana (lsd is best know for this) can cause latent mental problems *now*.
>I feel Marijuana started my worry or panic attacks because I had the first ones when I was too high and later on in life they came in different situations, so yes I agree it did change my mentals no doubt.
Posted by bumblebee on January 19, 2004, at 21:29:52
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?!?!? » bumblebee, posted by dms777smd on December 20, 2003, at 13:32:58
> That's very good that you stopped,,,,,,,all you're doing is killing yourself slowly,and I learned the same thing.Withdrawals suck like hell,but the only way you can avoid them is to not drink at all.,,,,,LOVE YOU
Thanks for your sincerity dms777 its been hard caz i still like to go out with my friends and all but they all respect that i dont drink ny more and thats a plus to have really good friends like that..
Posted by micro on January 20, 2004, at 0:42:30
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?!?!?, posted by Mr. SadPuppyDog on September 27, 2002, at 12:10:23
> YES!!! Alcohol can worsen panic attacks and all forms of anxiety as well as all forms of depression. This is because alcohol is a potent central nervous system depressant drug and it makes you more depressed. Where there is severe anxiety and panic, there is also some depression. You need to realize that depression usually goes hand in hand with severe panic attacks/GAD/PTSD, etc.
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> You need to stop drinking booze completely and clean your life up. If you do recreational "party" drugs like ecstasy, you need to stop doing that also. Ecstasy can worsen panic attacks, as well as everything else.
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> Keep it up and Id say eventually you will probably end up inpatient for a few weeks, probably will get ECT recommended to you one day. I can read your post and just tell...sorry.
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> Mr. Sad PuppyDogHello, I would like to add that roughly 30% of systemic diseases mimic mental illnesses,for example, a very commmon mimicker of anxiety is an underlying Hyperthyroidism. There are volumes of good medical resources which discuss the importance of ruling out the possibility that a mental conditon is secondary to a primary and undetected disease. Uncontrolled diabetes comes to mind and although pure hypoglycemia as state maybe rare: Hypoglycemia and hangovers have been widely described as similar to anxiety symtoms by many people who suffer from them. Regards Micro
Posted by panic_attack on January 21, 2004, at 18:52:09
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?!?!?, posted by micro on January 20, 2004, at 0:42:30
> You need to stop drinking booze completely and clean your life up. If you do recreational "party" drugs like ecstasy, you need to stop doing that also. Ecstasy can worsen panic attacks, as well as everything else.
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> Keep it up and Id say eventually you will probably end up inpatient for a few weeks, probably will get ECT recommended to you one day. I can read your post and just tell...sorry.
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> Mr. Sad PuppyDogI look back and read what Mr. Sad PuppyDog wrote to me months ago and I feel very offended by that. "Keep it up and Id say eventually you will probably end up inpatient for a few weeks, probably will get ECT recommended to you one day. I can read your post and just tell...sorry." You dont know me, you cannot assume something by a simple POST. And where did you come up with Ecstacy? I have never touched that stuff in my life. Yes, I drink occasionally and feel like crap the next day. Turns out I am hypoglycemic. So Should I run off and get ECT now? I have been doing much better since I was finally diagnosed. I cut down on the drinking, I got a new job that I love, my band is releasing a new CD in a couple of weeks and we are going on tour. I am a flutist and a damn good one. Could you tell by my post that I was talented? NO... just wanted to put me down and make yourself feel better. Thank you, I am done. I hope everyone understands where I am coming from, you cannot make judgements of people when you don't know the whole story.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 21, 2004, at 21:15:21
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?!?!?, posted by panic_attack on January 21, 2004, at 18:52:09
> you ... just wanted to put me down and make yourself feel better.
Sorry about that, but he did get blocked later that day. And now unfortunately I need to ask you not to jump to conclusions about others. If you have any questions about this or comments about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways to express yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
or redirect a follow-up to Psycho-Babble Administration. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by puravida on January 21, 2004, at 22:29:09
In reply to Re: Does Alcohol give you PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS?¿?!?!?, posted by panic_attack on January 21, 2004, at 18:52:09
Hi again PA,
I have taken a break (almost a month now)from daily drinking, and I can tell you that even though the first week or so my body felt very panicky, I have been more calm over all w/o drinking. My Dr. gave me some Serax to help with that first week - glad he did.
Someone said something about being an alcoholic - I don't agree with those labels. There are a lot of harm reduction groups like Moderation Management that a lot of people have success with. As you mention, you have a lot going for you, and you just happen to be aware that things might be better if indeed you could reduce the anxiety if it is related to drinking. Doesn't mean you are an alcohilic or will wind up in detox. Jeesh.
I was reading on about.com about drinking on Atkins, and they say that alcohol actually lowers blood sugar. Sometimes I think that the day after anxiety feelings just come from putting your body under so much stress and maybe being dehydrated. Anyhow, I miss drinking a lot less than I like not feeling like that anymore.
Good luck, once again -
PV
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