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Posted by Sebastian on September 11, 2003, at 12:24:56
In reply to Zyprexa vs. Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 10, 2003, at 17:44:28
In my opinion? Max dose of Abilify is 30 mgs, Max dose of zyprexa is 25mgs. If you take 2.5mgs zyprexa you probably only need 2-5mgs abilify. Just a guess, tell be what you find best.
Seb
Posted by cybercafe on September 12, 2003, at 1:11:31
In reply to Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 11, 2003, at 12:24:56
> In my opinion? Max dose of Abilify is 30 mgs, Max dose of zyprexa is 25mgs. If you take 2.5mgs zyprexa you probably only need 2-5mgs abilify. Just a guess, tell be what you find best.
hmmmm.... okay, it takes what 15 days for abilify to build up in your system? maybe tonite i should try taking another 4 mg to help it buildup a bit faster
Posted by Sebastian on September 12, 2003, at 22:09:59
In reply to Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 12, 2003, at 1:11:31
Couldn't hurt? I would take it right befor you sleep, so it won't keep you up all night.
Seb
Posted by cybercafe on September 13, 2003, at 3:17:33
In reply to Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify, posted by Sebastian on September 12, 2003, at 22:09:59
> Couldn't hurt? I would take it right befor you sleep, so it won't keep you up all night.
>
> Sebokay.... i'm taking 7.5 mg of abilify and cut down to 1.25 mg of zyprexa a day .... no akathisia or other side effects to report ... yay!
Posted by Sebastian on September 13, 2003, at 15:07:51
In reply to Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 13, 2003, at 3:17:33
Have you gotten a job yet!
Seb
Posted by cybercafe on September 13, 2003, at 15:14:46
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 13, 2003, at 15:07:51
> Have you gotten a job yet!
>
> SebNo, but I am sleeping less than 12 hours a day !
Posted by Sebastian on September 13, 2003, at 15:47:24
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 13, 2003, at 15:14:46
Are you liking the Abilify!
Posted by cybercafe on September 14, 2003, at 3:04:02
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 13, 2003, at 15:47:24
> Are you liking the Abilify!
at 7.5mg it seems to be good stuff... no negative effects..... how long do i have to wait for this akathisia to kick in??
i am looking forward to MORE emotions LESS sleep MORE motivation MORE sex drive
when it happens i don't know whether to attribute it to less zyprexa or more abilify!
Posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 10:46:38
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 14, 2003, at 3:04:02
Sounds like Akathisia is not a problem for you!! Still I wouldn't try going up on dose too fast, maybe 5 or more days. So the lower zyprexa has not hurt any? Goood.
Seb
Posted by cybercafe on September 14, 2003, at 15:31:46
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 10:46:38
> Sounds like Akathisia is not a problem for you!! Still I wouldn't try going up on dose too fast, maybe 5 or more days. So the lower zyprexa has not hurt any? Goood.
hmmm... you had akathisia at 7.5mg right?
hmm... but you started at 15 mg and then decreased to 7.5 mg yeah?where you taking any zyprexa at the time?
i don't really notice any difference... except that i think i used to feel a need to sit down and do nothing before .... and i am a little more motivated to do things now
Posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 17:49:45
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 14, 2003, at 15:31:46
My first trial I was taking 15mg the whole time, with or without the zyprexa. I had tried taking the smallar doses some time later to see if there would be any benifit for me.
It sounds like the Abilify is working for you. You probably would not have any trouble with the 15.
Posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 0:39:44
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 17:49:45
> My first trial I was taking 15mg the whole time, with or without the zyprexa. I had tried taking the smallar doses some time later to see if there would be any benifit for me.
>
> It sounds like the Abilify is working for you. You probably would not have any trouble with the 15.is it at all strange that i'm not getting any insomnia at 7.5mg ?
Posted by Sebastian on September 15, 2003, at 12:37:39
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 0:39:44
Sounds strange to me, but I guess the abilify is working for you. Especialy since you have reduced zyprexa. Maybe you ought to try 0mg zyprexa?
Sebastian
Posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 16:24:12
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 15, 2003, at 12:37:39
> Sounds strange to me, but I guess the abilify is working for you. Especialy since you have reduced zyprexa. Maybe you ought to try 0mg zyprexa?
>
> Sebastiani am taking 0 mg zyprexa and 7.5mg abilify but still i want to sleep all day
i blame celexa
Posted by JaneB on September 15, 2003, at 16:49:29
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 16:24:12
but still i want to sleep all day
>
> i blame celexaI took more naps for 2 years on celexa than for the whole rest of my life!
Jane
Posted by Sebastian on September 15, 2003, at 18:42:09
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 16:24:12
Maybe the Celexa should turn into Wellbutrin? Or take more Abilify? Try 15mg Abilify! That should do the trick!
Seb
Posted by cybercafe on September 16, 2003, at 3:57:16
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 15, 2003, at 18:42:09
> Maybe the Celexa should turn into Wellbutrin? Or take more Abilify? Try 15mg Abilify! That should do the trick!
hey that is plan B :)
i would prefer not to increase abilify too much as it blocks receptors i need to hit to treat my ADD (D4 and alpha1)
Posted by cybercafe on September 16, 2003, at 14:12:56
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 15, 2003, at 18:42:09
> Maybe the Celexa should turn into Wellbutrin? Or take more Abilify? Try 15mg Abilify! That should do the trick!
>
> Sebactually i've thought about it, and increasing the abilify sounds like a good idea, but the cost would be prohibitive
Posted by Sebastian on September 16, 2003, at 19:26:36
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 16, 2003, at 14:12:56
Just remember pill spliting, since you arn't going through a medical insurance company, you can buy 90 day supply of 30 mgs and cut, its cheaper this way, if you reserch a cheap pharmacy, any pharmacy would give you a lower price on a larger supply but some are cheaper than others.
Are you just trying not to sleep all day? I think if you switch celexa to wellbutrin, you would get over the sleep thing. And you take stimulants also don't you? Its posible..Maybe the stimulant puts you to sleep. But I would rule out the celexa first.
Seb
Posted by cybercafe on September 16, 2003, at 23:36:28
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 16, 2003, at 19:26:36
> Just remember pill spliting, since you arn't going through a medical insurance company, you can buy 90 day supply of 30 mgs and cut, its cheaper this way, if you reserch a cheap pharmacy, any pharmacy would give you a lower price on a larger supply but some are cheaper than others.
i was intending to buy 30mg and cut, but i wasn't aware that buying a 90 day supply was cheaper than buying 3 30 day supplies, is it?
> Are you just trying not to sleep all day? Iwell i'd like to go from 12,13,14 i get now to at most 9 hours
>think if you switch celexa to wellbutrin, you would get over the sleep thing. And you take
true.... but i think serotonin plays a role in my depression
>stimulants also don't you? Its posible..Maybe the stimulant puts you to sleep. But I would rule out the celexa first.
i dunno... i think the problem is that i don't get excited about anything.... no hopes or plans or goals or motivation... but otherwise my depression is gone
Posted by cybercafe on September 16, 2003, at 23:38:15
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 16, 2003, at 19:26:36
btw.. dunno if i asked this before.... but i heard abilify has antidepressant properties....... how do they compare to something like celexa or wellbutrin?
Posted by Sebastian on September 17, 2003, at 12:21:48
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 16, 2003, at 23:36:28
I think you should give 15 mgs a try, just for a couple of days, maybe 3. It will help get the medicine in your system faster and hopfully get you out of sleep cycle. Then go back down to 7.5, if it works and the 7.5 doesen't work after, consider 10mgs.
Seb
Posted by Sebastian on September 17, 2003, at 12:23:15
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 16, 2003, at 23:38:15
A little similar.
Posted by cybercafe on September 17, 2003, at 18:02:33
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by Sebastian on September 17, 2003, at 12:23:15
> A little similar.
so abilify could do just as much good as celexa at beating depression?
i should talk to my doc about decreasing my dose, hmmmm
Posted by cybercafe on September 17, 2003, at 18:03:27
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 17, 2003, at 12:21:48
> I think you should give 15 mgs a try, just for a couple of days, maybe 3. It will help get the medicine in your system faster and hopfully get you out of sleep cycle. Then go back down to 7.5, if it works and the 7.5 doesen't work after, consider 10mgs.
good advice.. thanks bro :)
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