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Posted by oeps7 on September 11, 2003, at 11:56:55
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl, XR or IR » oeps7, posted by KimberlyDi on September 11, 2003, at 11:23:44
> < Hi KimDi how are you doing today? This board has definitely given me a lot of great info. Also gives you the feeling that other people know what you are going through. I have been on so many meds during the years and effexor did seem to be the best one for anxiety and depression. I have tapered off because no longer works for me. How long have you been on effexor? Worked for me for 7 years. Also came off because I want to have a baby in the near future. The 50 of zoloft is working for me somewhat.
> > I am in the middle of effexor withdrawals which are not fun - have you heard of anything else that helps with withdrawal? I take 1 benadryl a day which seems to get rid of flu like feeling and nausea -
> > cheers,
> > Mary
>
> Everyone (lots of folks anyways) says to ask for a small prescription of Prozac to help you thru the withdrawals. I've only been on Effexor since May 2003, I believe. I was here posting on Day 1. It's been a lifesaver for me but I do understand that it doesn't work for everyone. I try to tame my enthusiam down a bit. Are you from England or Australia?
>
> My day is fine. No overwhelming emotions and my thinking is clear. What more could a person ask for? :) Keep us posted on what helps with your withdrawal. My day will come... Oh, and how exciting it must be to be planning for a baby! I envy you that. My husband has 2 from a previous marriage and doesn't want anymore.
>
> KDi in Texas
Hi KDi,
I am from NYC.
My day's not too bad either, just withdrawal symptoms every day - the benadryl works wonders though.
This would be my first baby Im 34 we're thinking about trying in a few months so I wanted to get past the withdrawals.
How old are your husbands 2 kids?
How's the weather in Texas - I've been to Dallas and Corpus Christi once - I loved it!
>
Posted by KimberlyDi on September 11, 2003, at 15:56:31
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl, XR or IR, posted by oeps7 on September 11, 2003, at 11:56:55
> Hi KDi,
> I am from NYC.
> My day's not too bad either, just withdrawal symptoms every day - the benadryl works wonders though.
> This would be my first baby Im 34 we're thinking about trying in a few months so I wanted to get past the withdrawals.
> How old are your husbands 2 kids?
> How's the weather in Texas - I've been to Dallas and Corpus Christi once - I loved it!Mary,
A little note: We're going to get re-directed to Psycho-Social-Babble soon since the posts are turning less med-related to more being social and providing support. It takes alittle getting used to but I navigate both sites almost daily.Anyways, my hubby is 43 years old, and I'm 34... just like you! His daughter is 4 and his son is 10. I have a 14-year-old son who just started highschool. {i can't believe that!} My son was diagnosed with ADHD early on and spent the majority of the time on Ritilin. He's been switched to Strattera just as I've been prescribed Strattera for ADD symptoms. So we're trying it out together.
I love Texas. The summers seem to be 6 months long now. We're short on rain, but like today, when it rains, it pours! I have 2 pomeranians who are likely enjoying this cooler weather. Temps in the 70's even! It was so hot this summer, I had them a kiddy-pool to splash around in. I've never been to NYC, but I would like to visit there before I'm old and feeble. But I'll always come back to my "wide open spaces" <dixie chick song>. and no, I'm not a big fan of the Dixie Cups, i mean, Dixie Chicks.
Laters!!
KDi in Texas
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 11, 2003, at 19:49:30
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl, XR or IR, posted by KimberlyDi on September 11, 2003, at 15:56:31
> A little note: We're going to get re-directed to Psycho-Social-Babble soon since the posts are turning less med-related to more being social and providing support. It takes alittle getting used to but I navigate both sites almost daily.
I'm glad you've gotten used to it, thanks for making the effort! Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030829/msgs/259187.html
Bob
Posted by foodie on November 1, 2003, at 16:39:47
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl, XR or IR, posted by oeps7 on September 11, 2003, at 9:32:21
Reply to KDi in Texas
I am currently wanting to get off the effexor xr and am looking for some help. (i love texas too!) anyway, i am also on so many other meds and my biggest sypmtom seems to be major sleeplessness. i did not think anything was going on until 3 big fights in the family this weekend. help.
Posted by KimberlyDi on November 3, 2003, at 7:39:44
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl, XR or IR, posted by foodie on November 1, 2003, at 16:39:47
I hear ya on the major sleepiness. I'm even still taking Strattera. This weekend I went down from 225mg to 150mg. Add that to Saturdays semi-suicial attempt of 10 ambiens washed down with a pint of Jack Danials... I may be sleepy from alot of things.
Hang in there,
KDi in Texas
Posted by LizaC on November 3, 2003, at 9:51:29
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl, XR or IR » foodie, posted by KimberlyDi on November 3, 2003, at 7:39:44
I'm new here- a relief to find these postings- I am going through serious effexor withdrawl and was reallly thinking I was crazy until I saw the reactions here- it feels unbearable, I have never in my life felt so much anxiety, i can't eat or sleep, am really not functioning well and am desparaet to get it out of my system- are there any relaxation techniques or anything that helps? Thanks
Posted by KimberlyDi on November 4, 2003, at 8:29:45
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl, XR or IR, posted by LizaC on November 3, 2003, at 9:51:29
People recommend Benedryl to ease up some of the symptoms. I'm finding some success with a 2-steps forward, 1 step back, technique. Pick a new low dosage to aim for (say 75 from 150). Hit it for a few days, as long as you can tolerate it, up the dosage alittle for some relief for a few days (say 112.50), then go back to the low dosage again (75). The 2nd time I hit the low dosage, it was MUCH more manageable.
Only, I was going from 225 to 150. Now, I'm gathering up the nerve to do the 150 to 75.
Good luck, this is a nightmare.
KDi in Texas> I'm new here- a relief to find these postings- I am going through serious effexor withdrawl and was reallly thinking I was crazy until I saw the reactions here- it feels unbearable, I have never in my life felt so much anxiety, i can't eat or sleep, am really not functioning well and am desparaet to get it out of my system- are there any relaxation techniques or anything that helps? Thanks
Posted by highhopes on November 6, 2003, at 23:22:07
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl, posted by john on March 28, 1999, at 20:52:30
Thanks for everyone's posts. It gives me hope that these symptoms will eventually fade. I was taking 300 mg daily, tablets. (The capsules put me into withdrawal immediately.) I had to taper off very slowly, shaving bits off the tablets. It's been a week since I've been completely off the Effexor. To me, the fact that I could taper off means I must be ready after 5 years. (Tried to get off it many times.)
I work in a sleep disorders lab; and I know that Effexor depresses REM sleep, the sleep phase most associated with dreaming. So I expected the vivid dreams. But I wasn't expecting the heightened emotions.I'm still itching, have "chills and fever" even though my temperature is 97, very bad joint pain that i thought was arthritis, that weird nerve thing like moving in slow motion and leaving a trail. (Is that what you mean by phasing?)
I've been taking St John's Wort twice a day to help with symptoms. It does help. Bought 2 month's worth on sale and plan to quit when they are gone.
I think Effexor probably saved my life. I know I formed a lot of good habits to replace destructive responses to stress while taking it. But I hope I don't ever have to go through this again.
Posted by Clayton on November 7, 2003, at 10:10:51
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl, posted by highhopes on November 6, 2003, at 23:22:07
Re: Effexor question » Smilez
Posted by Clayton on November 7, 2003, at 9:24:39In reply to Re: New Wellbutrin user - happy so far, posted by Smilez on November 6, 2003, at 21:18:23
Hi!
If you are willing to share and as your time permits, would you tell me about your symptoms? Why was Effexor prescribed for you?
I've been on Paxil for three years and it was only about 20% efficacious in controlling SAD and mood depresion.
I found a new pdoc and he is great! We are loooking for optopns re: antidepressant(s) that brings norepinepine into play and your med is one such option. But, goodness, just look at the horror stories about Efexxor on this site.
On my first visit, the new doc added Remaron as an adjunct to the Paxil. Remaron is unique. It works by increasing production of both seraronin and norepinephine, not by reuptake inhibition. It works in 3 days to a week (not 6 weeks like the SSRIs) and doen't eliminate your libido.
For me, it (Remaron), in conjunction with Paxil, was the keys to the kingdom. My mood is up 90%. I have not has a single SAD attack in the five months I'v beeen on this conbo. I'm doing things I haven't done for decades. It set me free.
Remaron & Paxil are synegistic on the seratonin side as one increases production and the other keeps it in you brain. But the doc (the only really good pdoc I've ever seen) prescribed too high a dose of Remaron. That resulted in way too much seratonin and I suddenly became bipolar for the first time in my life. (Crying and wailing followed by ranting - not like me AT ALL). So we've diled back the Remaron dose and I was given Zyprexa as a short term treatment for the bipolar symptons until the seraonin is dialed in correctly. But we both agree that norepinephrine was the major reason Remaron helped so much and are now vigilant about watching the seratonin levels.
We are considering continuing the Remaron for SOME seratonin support and dumping the SSRI Paxil in exchange for Strattera, a SNRI. This shifts the synergistic action to the norepinephrine side. ( I'm a little wary of dumping the med approved for SAD by the FDA), but I think it's a good idea, given that I have an amotivational syndrome, too.
But we want to consider all options and that is why I'm asking about the SSNRI, Effexor. Anything you are willing to share about your symptoms and Effexor's efficacy and effects and side-effects is greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much!
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 7, 2003, at 18:15:22
In reply to Effexor » highhopes, posted by Clayton on November 7, 2003, at 10:10:51
> Re: Effexor question » Smilez
> Posted by Clayton on November 7, 2003, at 9:24:39...Please don't repost the same message in multiple threads.
Also, follow-ups to the above post should be posted to the original thread. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20031105/msgs/277428.html
Bob
PS: Follow-ups regarding posting policies should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration; otherwise, they may be deleted.
Posted by nancy lotfi on November 27, 2003, at 16:59:55
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl » john, posted by CMG on September 2, 2001, at 23:07:52
>
hi im new to this site but already feeling like ove come home.afther taking effexor for 1 year the side effect especialy nausea almost drove me nuts .not to talk about tne weight gain.i decided to quit cold turkey my dayli dose of 375 mg .i would spend half the day sick in bed from nausea but would feel great afther ward now whith tje withdraw i feel so sick almost like im dying diareah nausea headack .my doctor is on vacation i just dont know where to turn is there anything you can take to help deal with the withdraw..im just dam if i take them because of side effect and dam if i dont from withdraw i need to live pls help mother of 2.
Posted by linkline on December 23, 2003, at 14:24:09
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl, posted by nancy lotfi on November 27, 2003, at 16:59:55
> > are you ok? i am going thru effexor withdrawal also and just found this site. if you read many of the posts you can see that what you are going thru is about what to expect. maybe if you tapered off instead of cold turkey--esp if you are having to deal with 2 kids at the same time--it might help. And exercise, if you can drag yourself out the door helps a lot, mentally and physically. there are various supplements that will help also, but to be honest, I have kicked many drugs in my life, legal and illegal, and just the 75 mg of effexor I am trying to come off of is knocking me out. let me know if i can help by talking to you.....
> hi im new to this site but already feeling like ove come home.afther taking effexor for 1 year the side effect especialy nausea almost drove me nuts .not to talk about tne weight gain.i decided to quit cold turkey my dayli dose of 375 mg .i would spend half the day sick in bed from nausea but would feel great afther ward now whith tje withdraw i feel so sick almost like im dying diareah nausea headack .my doctor is on vacation i just dont know where to turn is there anything you can take to help deal with the withdraw..im just dam if i take them because of side effect and dam if i dont from withdraw i need to live pls help mother of 2.
Posted by selene on December 30, 2003, at 5:14:26
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl » nancy lotfi, posted by linkline on December 23, 2003, at 14:24:09
Today I took my last dose of Effexor XR. I've been on 300mg/daily for a number of years now, and despite side effects when I forget a dose, I wouldn't still be alive without it. I had a marvelous psychiatrist for years who tried various ADs and "cocktails" until we found the one that really worked -- for me, Effexor. His patience, kindness, and prescribing brilliance was so reassuring.
Unfortunately, about a year ago, he had a stroke and, though he survived, thank God, he was unable to continue his practice and, in fact, was taken out of the area to rehabilitate with a family member. I felt terrible for him, and, yes, was grief-stricken by the loss of his empathy and his knowledge of me. I managed to find another pdoc and stayed on the Effexor XR, though I did reduce from 450 to 300 mg.
However, now I'm stuck in a terrible dilemma. My health insurance has lapsed so I can't afford to refill my prescription (my God, is it expensive!). My doctor sent an application to Wyatt Labs to enroll me in their patient assistance program so I could still get the Effexor for 3 months, by the end of which I should be back on my feet financially. Wyatt said it would take about 4 weeks to process the app. Meanwhile, my dr. gave me all his office samples to tide me over (how fun it's been taking about a million 37.5 capsules each morning in order to get my 300 mg!). If my original pdoc was around and healthy, he would have found some way to prevent this from happening, I'm absolutely certain. But ... not to be.
The sky darkens: it's been over 6 weeks since the application went to Wyatt, so I called them the Friday after Christmas. Coal in my stocking, dammit: they're running way behind, have no record of my app., and no suggestion except to wait since it may take 8 weeks total to get to mine. Aaaargh!!
I know full well what awaits me in stopping the Effexor cold turkey. And I'm horrified by the prospect. I'm fairly sensitive to the dose and have had withdrawal symptoms when I've even been 8 hours late in taking my meds. Those were mostly the "weird brain" feelings (as I call them), sudden weeping, and the feeling of being physically out of sync ... sort of a strange body perception, slightly out of normal time. Oh yeah, and the cranium-crushing headaches. That was with just a delay or a missed day. I am not looking forward to experiencing what going from 300 mg. to 0 mg. will be like. Yiiiiikes.
Anyway ... I do have some Prozac left from this doc prescribing it for PMS symptoms. And I've read the posts from several years ago about taking Benadryl to help alleviate some of the discomfort.
Please, please, please -- does anyone have any other suggestions? Should my husband pad the walls of our room and lock me in with some food and water and my paltry supply of Prozac? Tell the neighbors to ignore my screaming?
Anyone? Help?
Posted by sick of being sick on January 4, 2004, at 21:01:22
In reply to Forced Effexor Withdrawal -- Help?, posted by selene on December 30, 2003, at 5:14:26
> I started taking 20mg of Sarafem two years ago for my PMDD. It was increased last year to 40mg (same as Prozac). The Sarafem didn't seem to be helping so the doctor's assistant put me on 150mg of Effexor. After about a week I started having electrical shock-like sensations in my head. The sensations were so bad I thought I was having a stroke and went to the hospital. I told the doctors I was on Effexor, but they didn't correlate the two. Was told they couldn't find anything wrong and sent me home.
I was then taken off of Effexor over a two week period and put on some other drug that only works on your seretonin levels. I was on it for about 3 weeks but still had my original symptoms of PMDD. So the doctor put me back on Effexor starting at 37.5mg for 2 weeks then up to 75mg. I was on the 75mg for 3 weeks and starting having the electrical shock-like sensations in my head, hands and feet again. I started having panic attacks and horrible, realistic, "no body likes me" nightmares. My thoughts started racing and I felt overwhelmed with all the things I needed to do! I felt like I was loosing my mind! I couldn't stop crying, couldn't sleep - but was tired and just felt plain rotten. So I called the doctors and they told me to just STOP taking the Effexor and wanted to see me. But I couldn't drive, so they told me I just had to "wait it out"It's been six days since I've taken the Effexor and I'm still experiencing these awful syptoms! I went to see the genius doctor yesterday and he said, "Oh you probably have an inner ear infection." I can't seem to get anybody to understand how bad I'm feeling, or how scary these electrical shock-like sensations feel! What should I do?! Don't the doctor's know?!
Posted by selene on January 6, 2004, at 1:57:43
In reply to Effexor Symptoms, posted by sick of being sick on January 4, 2004, at 21:01:22
No, I don't think a lot of the doctors know!! Obviously, from your experience.
I've never heard of anyone experiencing these symptoms when going ON Effexor. Just when going off. I'm really surprised that you were started at 150 mg. Again ... never heard of it. The recommended course is the one you were following the second time ... beginning with 37.5 and then increasing at that increment. I personally didn't experience any benefit until I hit 300 mg.
It sounds like it's good they took you off, but such a drastic stop was bound to bring on the withdrawal effects. I have been using Prozac at 20 mg. and also Benadryl as was advised at this site. It has kept the brain shocks and much of the emotional stuff under control amazingly well. I really didn't think it would work.
Is there anyone who is experienced with Effexor XR who can advise you?
Also ... sorry, but I don't know what your diagnosis (PMDD) is ... ?
Posted by sick of being sick on January 6, 2004, at 9:44:49
In reply to Re: Effexor Symptoms » sick of being sick, posted by selene on January 6, 2004, at 1:57:43
> PMDD is premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder - laymen's term "really bad PMS"
And you're right about having the symptoms while going on the Effexor. I think, after reading these threads, that the first dose of 150mg was too much too fast and the second time around I missed a dose, got scared, so I stopped taking it. Sure wish the doctors would have told me more info about this medicine.
Anyway, thanks for the reply. I'm on my way to the doctors this morning because they want me to go back on 37.5 mg and ween off, but it's been 8 days since I took any Effexor and I'm actually feeling better - so I think I'll just ask for 1 or 2 Prozacs 20mg to keep the withdrawl edge off.
No, I don't think a lot of the doctors know!! Obviously, from your experience.
>
> I've never heard of anyone experiencing these symptoms when going ON Effexor. Just when going off. I'm really surprised that you were started at 150 mg. Again ... never heard of it. The recommended course is the one you were following the second time ... beginning with 37.5 and then increasing at that increment. I personally didn't experience any benefit until I hit 300 mg.
>
> It sounds like it's good they took you off, but such a drastic stop was bound to bring on the withdrawal effects. I have been using Prozac at 20 mg. and also Benadryl as was advised at this site. It has kept the brain shocks and much of the emotional stuff under control amazingly well. I really didn't think it would work.
>
> Is there anyone who is experienced with Effexor XR who can advise you?
>
> Also ... sorry, but I don't know what your diagnosis (PMDD) is ... ?
Posted by sick of being sick on January 6, 2004, at 9:47:09
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl, posted by john on March 28, 1999, at 20:52:30
>Selene
PMDD is Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder - laymen's term "really bad PMS"And you're right about having the symptoms while going on the Effexor. I think, after reading these threads, that the first dose of 150mg was too much too fast and the second time around I missed a dose, got scared, so I stopped taking it. Sure wish the doctors would have told me more info about this medicine.
Anyway, thanks for the reply. I'm on my way to the doctors this morning because they want me to go back on 37.5 mg and ween off, but it's been 8 days since I took any Effexor and I'm actually feeling better - so I think I'll just ask for 1 or 2 Prozacs 20mg to keep the withdrawl edge off.
Posted by selene on January 6, 2004, at 10:42:36
In reply to Re: Effexor Symptoms, posted by sick of being sick on January 6, 2004, at 9:44:49
Oh, Jeez. Is that what PMDD is? I should have been soaking in Effexor XR for years then! My current psychiatrist had told me that Effexor is being used now for PMS and perimenopausal symptoms. He was surprised that I was having those still even though I was on 300 mg, so he added Prozac for "those days" as he put it. It actually did help for a while.
Oh yeah, the Benadryl WITH the Prozac is what works for me for withdrawals, as previous posts had mentioned. I suppose it's because Effexor affects histamine in addition to seratonin.
How are they treating you now?
Posted by selene on January 6, 2004, at 10:52:59
In reply to Re: Effexor Withdrawl, posted by sick of being sick on January 6, 2004, at 9:47:09
By the way, I don't think I mentioned this: Effexor XR has been the o-n-l-y thing that has worked for me after literally years of being put on one after another. Once I hit the right dose, it was like a miracle. The only reason I'm weaning myself off is because I've temporarily lost my health insurance and I can't afford the insanely high price (of any drugs, actually). The withdrawal symptoms being so bad does not deter me from highly endorsing Effexor. I'm way beyond trying to be "natural" and drug-free ... and usually miserable! My brain chemistry, unfortunately, is messed up. Science has found an answer to that. Yay!
Posted by KimberlyDi on January 6, 2004, at 13:11:09
In reply to Effexor Symptoms, posted by sick of being sick on January 4, 2004, at 21:01:22
I seem to get those shock feelings more now since I've experienced my first taste of withdrawal with Effexor. I've also gotten used to the brain shivers and tingling hands, though they remain annoying. I think panic/fear increases the severity of these shocks.
Along with the other poster, I believe you were started on too high a dosage. I imagine it messed with your mental wiring. Good luck, KDi in TX.
Posted by twiggy on January 6, 2004, at 14:48:15
In reply to Re: Effexor Symptoms » sick of being sick, posted by KimberlyDi on January 6, 2004, at 13:11:09
I get something I describe as a brain "Yawn", it is definately a "shiver" as you described. It is the strangest head feeling I've ever had and until now, never contributed it to the Effexor. I've been off the Effexor for two years now, but I still get those - less than once a month ( amongst major back pain, nerve problems, tingling feet, night sweats, itchy feet and hands). SO I fear for what I've already done to my body. I disagree 100% with the science solution. It's all BS, it's all a test, we're the subjects of course, they get all the $$, the trips to mexico, the dinners out with the pharm. reps and we get to deal with the short term and long term side effects because they don't do the homework before they push it down our throats. I remember my doctor talking me into taking drugs for the depression. I DID have problems but I did not want to go on anything - he literally persuaded me into it, reassuring me that it wouldn't hurt me, yada yada yada.I will always search for alternative treatment: vacation, relaxation, removing the things in my life that are at the root, yoga excerize - anything. I hope and pray I stay well mentally. Some of you don't have an option but if there's any chance that it's more than chemical - try something else first. Like living by a stream or listening to relaxing music, exercise anything
Posted by sick of being sick on January 6, 2004, at 15:31:23
In reply to Re: Effexor Symptoms » sick of being sick, posted by selene on January 6, 2004, at 10:42:36
>Well I just got back from the doctors. She gave me 20mg of Prozac for a week then 10mg of Prozac for a week. This is suppose to ease the Effexor withdrawals. I'm actually feeling a little better today, still feel a little "drunk" and have a bad headache, but can actually function. I went to the grocery store today - that was a big step for me.
I'll be off all these drugs in two weeks and I'm never going back on an antidepressant. I'd reather be a real bitch one week a month then feel this way all the time.
Thanks for your support
Oh, Jeez. Is that what PMDD is? I should have been soaking in Effexor XR for years then! My current psychiatrist had told me that Effexor is being used now for PMS and perimenopausal symptoms. He was surprised that I was having those still even though I was on 300 mg, so he added Prozac for "those days" as he put it. It actually did help for a while.
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> Oh yeah, the Benadryl WITH the Prozac is what works for me for withdrawals, as previous posts had mentioned. I suppose it's because Effexor affects histamine in addition to seratonin.
>
> How are they treating you now?
Posted by selene on January 6, 2004, at 23:23:40
In reply to Re: Effexor Symptoms, posted by sick of being sick on January 6, 2004, at 15:31:23
A long time ago, before my first depressive episode, I was treated by a holistic doctor for severe PMS. I followed her strict diet which was vegan and based on a mix of natural whole grains, legumes, vegetables and some fruit. Nothing processed at all. And vigorous exercise -- I ran every other day and lifted weights. It was incredibly successful. Not only did the PMS disappear -- both emotional and physical symptoms -- but I had tons of energy.
You may be doing all this already, but, if not, you might consider it. Also, after I did a little research, I learned that the difference between PMDD and PMS, is profound. So, my little anectdote, above, may not apply to you considering the PMDD diagnosis
Good luck, and I hope you won't feel "sick" much longer.
> >Well I just got back from the doctors. She gave me 20mg of Prozac for a week then 10mg of Prozac for a week. This is suppose to ease the Effexor withdrawals. I'm actually feeling a little better today, still feel a little "drunk" and have a bad headache, but can actually function. I went to the grocery store today - that was a big step for me.
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> I'll be off all these drugs in two weeks and I'm never going back on an antidepressant. I'd reather be a real bitch one week a month then feel this way all the time.
>
> Thanks for your support
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> Oh, Jeez. Is that what PMDD is? I should have been soaking in Effexor XR for years then! My current psychiatrist had told me that Effexor is being used now for PMS and perimenopausal symptoms. He was surprised that I was having those still even though I was on 300 mg, so he added Prozac for "those days" as he put it. It actually did help for a while.
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> > Oh yeah, the Benadryl WITH the Prozac is what works for me for withdrawals, as previous posts had mentioned. I suppose it's because Effexor affects histamine in addition to seratonin.
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> > How are they treating you now?
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Posted by sick of being sick on January 8, 2004, at 6:36:14
In reply to Re: Effexor Symptoms » sick of being sick, posted by selene on January 6, 2004, at 23:23:40
> Thanks for the advise. I've already planned on going back to the gym. Was going to start last week but couldn't get off the couch, so I'm starting this Sunday. Hopefully this will help with all my symptoms. I'm actually feeling pretty good and I'm going to work today. I hope I don't bite anyone's head off!
A long time ago, before my first depressive episode, I was treated by a holistic doctor for severe PMS. I followed her strict diet which was vegan and based on a mix of natural whole grains, legumes, vegetables and some fruit. Nothing processed at all. And vigorous exercise -- I ran every other day and lifted weights. It was incredibly successful. Not only did the PMS disappear -- both emotional and physical symptoms -- but I had tons of energy.
>
> You may be doing all this already, but, if not, you might consider it. Also, after I did a little research, I learned that the difference between PMDD and PMS, is profound. So, my little anectdote, above, may not apply to you considering the PMDD diagnosis
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> Good luck, and I hope you won't feel "sick" much longer.
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> > >Well I just got back from the doctors. She gave me 20mg of Prozac for a week then 10mg of Prozac for a week. This is suppose to ease the Effexor withdrawals. I'm actually feeling a little better today, still feel a little "drunk" and have a bad headache, but can actually function. I went to the grocery store today - that was a big step for me.
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> > I'll be off all these drugs in two weeks and I'm never going back on an antidepressant. I'd reather be a real bitch one week a month then feel this way all the time.
> >
> > Thanks for your support
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> > Oh, Jeez. Is that what PMDD is? I should have been soaking in Effexor XR for years then! My current psychiatrist had told me that Effexor is being used now for PMS and perimenopausal symptoms. He was surprised that I was having those still even though I was on 300 mg, so he added Prozac for "those days" as he put it. It actually did help for a while.
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> > > Oh yeah, the Benadryl WITH the Prozac is what works for me for withdrawals, as previous posts had mentioned. I suppose it's because Effexor affects histamine in addition to seratonin.
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> > > How are they treating you now?
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Posted by trishagni on January 11, 2004, at 15:38:23
In reply to Effexor Symptoms, posted by sick of being sick on January 4, 2004, at 21:01:22
Hi there,
I too got those symptoms of tremors when i was put on a dose of effexor that i felt was too high for me.
Fortunately, I live in Seattle and have access to Bastyr university's natural health clinic. Bastyr University conducts research on alternaitve medicine. I consulted a naturopathic doctor at the university's clinic who informed me that the tremors were because effexor depletes minerals from the body. I was sent home with mineral supplements and haven't had that horrible experience again.Around a month ago i also began the process of getting off effexor with the help of doctors at the clinic. I started accupunture to help me with the anxiety that i have always felt, that even effexor was unable to help with beyond a point. I feel that effexor helped contain anxiety by dulling me out... the anxiety was gone but then so was positive constructive life energy. I feel that accupuncture has helped me lessen the anxiety without making me feel like a dulled out moronic vegetable. Accupuncture also helped contain the effexor withdrawl symptoms as i went about tapering off effexor. Oooh! i feel so relieved and so reassured that i have placed my trust in a system that is so non intrusive, is millenia old instead of being decades old and helps me work with my body instead of taking it over.
Of course it will be good to check out the credentials of any alternative health practitioner one visits, but after reading the posts here i feel that even 'conventional' medicine is not without its hiccups.
Take care everybody! Hope my post is of help.
> > I started taking 20mg of Sarafem two years ago for my PMDD. It was increased last year to 40mg (same as Prozac). The Sarafem didn't seem to be helping so the doctor's assistant put me on 150mg of Effexor. After about a week I started having electrical shock-like sensations in my head. The sensations were so bad I thought I was having a stroke and went to the hospital. I told the doctors I was on Effexor, but they didn't correlate the two. Was told they couldn't find anything wrong and sent me home.
> I was then taken off of Effexor over a two week period and put on some other drug that only works on your seretonin levels. I was on it for about 3 weeks but still had my original symptoms of PMDD. So the doctor put me back on Effexor starting at 37.5mg for 2 weeks then up to 75mg. I was on the 75mg for 3 weeks and starting having the electrical shock-like sensations in my head, hands and feet again. I started having panic attacks and horrible, realistic, "no body likes me" nightmares. My thoughts started racing and I felt overwhelmed with all the things I needed to do! I felt like I was loosing my mind! I couldn't stop crying, couldn't sleep - but was tired and just felt plain rotten. So I called the doctors and they told me to just STOP taking the Effexor and wanted to see me. But I couldn't drive, so they told me I just had to "wait it out"
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> It's been six days since I've taken the Effexor and I'm still experiencing these awful syptoms! I went to see the genius doctor yesterday and he said, "Oh you probably have an inner ear infection." I can't seem to get anybody to understand how bad I'm feeling, or how scary these electrical shock-like sensations feel! What should I do?! Don't the doctor's know?!
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