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Posted by lizzy on April 13, 2001, at 11:24:04
In reply to new, posted by momof2 on April 12, 2001, at 16:47:45
> Today is the 2nd day my husband has been taking 10 mg of celexa. Never had any other AD before.
> He said that last night was awful trying to sleep. From other message boards that I have been reading, I notice that some people feel sleepy all the time and some have problems sleeping. One person wrote that Benedryl helps them sleep and it's non addicting. Also that it's safe to take with this drug.
> Does anyone else have any ideas on how to get a restful night's sleep.
> Also, his stomach is really bothering him. Very nauseas during meals. How long does this last?
> And why would a drug affect people the way it does? I thought that this was just helping the chemical that the brain is deficient in to obtain more of that chemical. Why do you have stomach aches and restless nights?
> I am trying to understand this drug and trying to help support my husband while he is taking this drug. I may have a lot of questions and hope that none of you get bothered by my inquisitiveness.
> I am glad that I found this site because from the knowledge I get reading these messages, I pass them on to my spouse, who wouldn't in a million years come and share problems with complete strangers. I have to for him---because I love him and want to help.I was nauseous when I first started taking Celexa. I couldn't eat much and lost some weight. I was also restless and didn't sleep as well at first but after my body adjusted I sleep very well - too well - 10-12 hours a night. The medicine has been fantastic for me - I'm more sociable, outgoing, talkative, willing to try new things. Before I was almost a recluse and very shy about talking to strangers and had no interest in going out with friends (it seemed like an effort). I am also more calm and positive and less obsessive about things (like how the house looks). Don't worry. Just give the medicine time to work and best of luck.
Posted by lizzy on April 13, 2001, at 11:26:35
In reply to Re: Celexa/side effects-Urinary Tract Problems?, posted by Terri Renee on April 12, 2001, at 13:37:31
> > What kind of UTI symptoms do you have? Urinary retention?
>
> I have constant urgency, but I am not able
> to that much . I feel like my bladder is full
> all the time.Yes, actually I felt like that especially at night. I had this pressure and had to get out of bed to go to the bathroom but wouldn't go very much. It drove me crazy! I had some leftover pills from a urinary infection - not the antibiotic but the ones that take away the urgency. I took those on the nights that were the worst and when I wanted to not wake up all night having to go to the bathroom. Eventually the symptoms went away - I think 1 to 2 months.
Best of luck and hang in there. The medicine works great!
Posted by Gladys on April 13, 2001, at 12:47:32
In reply to Re: new, posted by lizzy on April 13, 2001, at 11:24:04
I'm leaving celexa and going on wellbutrin right now. I am down to 40 mg of celexa from 60 mg, and am on 100 mg of Wellbutrin. I noticed when I was talking to friends at dinner last night that I could not concentrate on what they were saying. When I realized I didn't know what they were talking about I tried again to consciously concentrate. I just couldn't seem to! I got lost again. I am wondering if anyone else has had similar effects. I am also on Buspar 60 mg but have not been this bad. My mind wanders quickly without even realizing it. I hope it stops soon!
Posted by lizzy on April 14, 2001, at 12:24:09
In reply to Re: getting off of celexa to wellbutrin, posted by Gladys on April 13, 2001, at 12:47:32
> I'm leaving celexa and going on wellbutrin right now. I am down to 40 mg of celexa from 60 mg, and am on 100 mg of Wellbutrin. I noticed when I was talking to friends at dinner last night that I could not concentrate on what they were saying. When I realized I didn't know what they were talking about I tried again to consciously concentrate. I just couldn't seem to! I got lost again. I am wondering if anyone else has had similar effects. I am also on Buspar 60 mg but have not been this bad. My mind wanders quickly without even realizing it. I hope it stops soon!
I haven't had any problems with concentrating - maybe when I first started Celexa. I am taking 30 mg once a day.My husband was on Wellbutrin for a while and it seemed to make him angry and go into fits of rage. I have heard that Wellbutrin is one of the few anti-depressants that do not cause weight gain. Let me know how it works for you - I'm curious since I was thinking about it myself because it does not cause weight gain. I'd love to know it it makes you more sociable like Celexa does and less obsessive and more calm.
Thanks. Best of luck.
Posted by SalArmy4me on April 15, 2001, at 8:08:45
In reply to Re: Getting Off Celexa - So Tired, posted by Dione on April 3, 2001, at 23:46:35
Prozac is stimulating to a lot of people--my Dad says his patients experience that.
> In addition to the weight gain-I too had tremours and could sleep allday-there was no happy medium-and it has taken me about 6 months to stop wanting to sleep all day-there are some days that I still could-but the urge to do so is not as overwhelming-I have got to find and anti-depressent that does not have so may side effects-any suggestions?
Posted by jacquie on April 16, 2001, at 18:22:32
In reply to Re: getting off of celexa to wellbutrin » Gladys, posted by lizzy on April 14, 2001, at 12:24:09
> > I'm leaving celexa and going on wellbutrin right now. I am down to 40 mg of celexa from 60 mg, and am on 100 mg of Wellbutrin. I noticed when I was talking to friends at dinner last night that I could not concentrate on what they were saying. When I realized I didn't know what they were talking about I tried again to consciously concentrate. I just couldn't seem to! I got lost again. I am wondering if anyone else has had similar effects. I am also on Buspar 60 mg but have not been this bad. My mind wanders quickly without even realizing it. I hope it stops soon!
>
>
> I haven't had any problems with concentrating - maybe when I first started Celexa. I am taking 30 mg once a day.
>
> My husband was on Wellbutrin for a while and it seemed to make him angry and go into fits of rage. I have heard that Wellbutrin is one of the few anti-depressants that do not cause weight gain. Let me know how it works for you - I'm curious since I was thinking about it myself because it does not cause weight gain. I'd love to know it it makes you more sociable like Celexa does and less obsessive and more calm.
>
> Thanks. Best of luck.Hello Lizzy & Gladys,
I was on Celexa some time ago and it does make you more
sociable. What other positive or negative side effects
have you had from Celexa. I take Wellbutrin 150mg
per day and will increase to another 100mg starting
tomorrow. I will say I miss the social part of celexa.
I truly do. Wellbutrin does not do that for me, but
it motivates me and helps me focus much more and I
think clearer on it somehow. Celexa was wonderful
with its ability to help me overcome my social
ineptness or social phobia. Have you gained much
weight from celexa? I don't recall huge weight gain.
Loved those carbohydrates though, but struggled to
lose any weight I may have wanted to. I am just curious
what and how you feel about it. Wellbutrin is not
a drug to make one calm, at least not me.I hope I did not interfere with the thread. Apologies
if I have done so,, but the celexa stuff has been
on my mind for 2 days now and maybe it won't be
so bad if I take it with Wellbutrin.If you care to share your thoughts I would greatly appreciate
them.Thanks,
Jacquie
Posted by Loquesea on April 16, 2001, at 22:52:01
In reply to Re: Lizzy and Gladys, posted by jacquie on April 16, 2001, at 18:22:32
Has anyone heard of Celexa being prescribed for performance anxiety? My psychiatrist is suggesting I start with this.
Posted by Noa on April 17, 2001, at 7:02:15
In reply to Re: Celexa/side effects-Urinary Tract Problems?, posted by Terri Renee on April 12, 2001, at 13:37:31
I have urinary problems from effexor (I think--Scott suggested it could be from the serzone, but it started before I added serzone to my cocktail). I have been looking for info on this.
What I have been able to come up with is that there are various serotonin receptors in the bladder and ureter that cause the muscle tissue to contract. With serotonergic medications, it is possible that these receptors are activated, causing spasms in the urinary tract, which causes the urgency and frequency.
I am still trying to find out which serotonin receptors are responsible, and whether some of them can be blocked. I will try to post the abstract references sometime soon--I think you can find them in the archives--search under 5HT4 and my name (noa).
Posted by Gladys on April 17, 2001, at 13:05:35
In reply to Re: Celexa side-effects/weight gain, posted by Kel on June 20, 1999, at 14:56:49
Hi Kelly,
It's been a long while since you wrote that about weight gain. You wrote that you tried Wellbutrin. Did you still gain on Wellbutrin as well as the rest? I heard that you can lose weight while on it. I am going off Celexa because I gained about 15-20 lbs. I can't seem to shed any. I am getting onto Wellbutrin and hope it will help me lose the weight I gained because I am getting depressed now because of how I feel about myself. Pointless to take the ADs then! Any info from anyone would be great!
Posted by Leighwit on April 17, 2001, at 16:31:54
In reply to Re: Celexa side-effects/weight gain, posted by Gladys on April 17, 2001, at 13:05:35
Hi Gladys,
I'm about to do the same thing, ie, quit Celexa because of weight gain. I've been taking a small dose of Celexa with Wellbutrin. The Celexa was added to reduce the edginess I experienced as a side effect of the WB. It does accomplish that, but I've had it with this non-stop weight gain.
LBW
Hi Kelly,
> It's been a long while since you wrote that about weight gain. You wrote that you tried Wellbutrin. Did you still gain on Wellbutrin as well as the rest? I heard that you can lose weight while on it. I am going off Celexa because I gained about 15-20 lbs. I can't seem to shed any. I am getting onto Wellbutrin and hope it will help me lose the weight I gained because I am getting depressed now because of how I feel about myself. Pointless to take the ADs then! Any info from anyone would be great!
Posted by Glenda on April 18, 2001, at 10:59:36
In reply to Performance anxiety, posted by Loquesea on April 16, 2001, at 22:52:01
> Has anyone heard of Celexa being prescribed for performance anxiety? My psychiatrist is suggesting I start with this.
My psychiatrist just prescribed this medication for my anxiety. I have only taken one pill so I am no expert on this drug. Reading about all the side effects is pretty scary.
Posted by lizzy on April 18, 2001, at 20:46:44
In reply to Re: Lizzy and Gladys, posted by jacquie on April 16, 2001, at 18:22:32
> > > I'm leaving celexa and going on wellbutrin right now. I am down to 40 mg of celexa from 60 mg, and am on 100 mg of Wellbutrin. I noticed when I was talking to friends at dinner last night that I could not concentrate on what they were saying. When I realized I didn't know what they were talking about I tried again to consciously concentrate. I just couldn't seem to! I got lost again. I am wondering if anyone else has had similar effects. I am also on Buspar 60 mg but have not been this bad. My mind wanders quickly without even realizing it. I hope it stops soon!
> >
> >
> > I haven't had any problems with concentrating - maybe when I first started Celexa. I am taking 30 mg once a day.
> >
> > My husband was on Wellbutrin for a while and it seemed to make him angry and go into fits of rage. I have heard that Wellbutrin is one of the few anti-depressants that do not cause weight gain. Let me know how it works for you - I'm curious since I was thinking about it myself because it does not cause weight gain. I'd love to know it it makes you more sociable like Celexa does and less obsessive and more calm.
> >
> > Thanks. Best of luck.
>
> Hello Lizzy & Gladys,
>
> I was on Celexa some time ago and it does make you more
> sociable. What other positive or negative side effects
> have you had from Celexa. I take Wellbutrin 150mg
> per day and will increase to another 100mg starting
> tomorrow. I will say I miss the social part of celexa.
> I truly do. Wellbutrin does not do that for me, but
> it motivates me and helps me focus much more and I
> think clearer on it somehow. Celexa was wonderful
> with its ability to help me overcome my social
> ineptness or social phobia. Have you gained much
> weight from celexa? I don't recall huge weight gain.
> Loved those carbohydrates though, but struggled to
> lose any weight I may have wanted to. I am just curious
> what and how you feel about it. Wellbutrin is not
> a drug to make one calm, at least not me.
>
> I hope I did not interfere with the thread. Apologies
> if I have done so,, but the celexa stuff has been
> on my mind for 2 days now and maybe it won't be
> so bad if I take it with Wellbutrin.
>
> If you care to share your thoughts I would greatly appreciate
> them.
>
> Thanks,
> JacquieHi Jacquie,
I really like Celexa. I didn't gain weight (has been about 5 months on mostly 20 mg dosage). I actually felt a bit nauseous at first and wasn't as interested in eating as I used to be. My original side effects were: restless legs and feet, tingling feet, decreased sensation in the private areas, increased urgency to urinate, spacey feeling, extreme tiredness. These mostly went away after about a month. I guess I still get restless legs while sleeping (so my husband says). I need to sleep 10 - 12 hours a night. I'm going to try my med. in the morning instead of at night (thought maybe the restless legs was not allowing me good sleep). I got some sensation back in the private area, but not totally (no problem with orgasm though). I love Celexa though. It makes me very sociable whereas before I was somewhat anti-social. I feel more calm and able to deal with problems and stress. I am much happier than before. I pretty much have a positive outlook on life whereas before I didn't. Of course, going to therapy helps and I'm reading a lot of good stuff like "Wherever You Go, There You Are" (about meditation) and "Don't Sweat the Small Things - and they're all small" and an article about the Dalai Lama and how he analyzes thoughts fully (like anger and considering all factors of becoming angry - will it help? did I cause some of it? that the other person is both good and bad and think of positive things in person - how can this experience help expand my thoughts?, etc. Sorry to go on and on - just wanted to add these suggestions in addition to the medicine.Take Care,
Lizzy
Posted by Gladys on April 19, 2001, at 12:17:21
In reply to Re: Lizzy and Gladys » jacquie, posted by lizzy on April 18, 2001, at 20:46:44
Well, I'm on 30mg of Celexa going down to 20mg next week and possibly will go up on the wellbutrin (been on 100mg in the a.m. for ten days.) I have been edgy, but don't yet know if that was due to PMS or not. Hoping it was, because I don't want to add the celexa back in to help for that because of the weight gain! I will let you all know if I lose some of the weight once totally off the celexa (whether or not I can lose it), and about the social aspects or anti social aspects.
Lizzy,
can you tell me where you got the article on the Dalai Lama or what the name is? Who knows, maybe it will help with some of the edginess. Thanks!
Posted by MarieMurph on April 19, 2001, at 13:04:07
In reply to Re: New and nervous, posted by bonnie_ann on April 8, 2001, at 9:54:54
>
HI im 19 years old, and have panic/anxiety, and now the beginnings of depression because of my inability to do the things i want to do. I am currently taking lorazepam, when needed, not regularly, It helps, but im starting to depend too much on it, and it makes me tired, I also had tried Paxil, and had to stop after 3 days, it made me sooo sick!!!... And i was talking to a friend who recently started taking celexa, and really likes it. I just dont want to get sick like i was before with the Paxil. I'm at the point where i cant work, or drive far alone....Does anyone take celexa for severe anxiety?? and is it working?? I'm also really concerned about hte side effects... do you notice them decreasnig over time?
Posted by Leighwit on April 19, 2001, at 13:13:24
In reply to wellbutrin and celexa, posted by Gladys on April 19, 2001, at 12:17:21
Celexa definitely helps some people (it does me) in counteracting the edginess sometimes
produced as a side effect of Wellbutrin. I've taken them together (only 10 mg of Celexa with 300 mg of WB)for the past year and a half, and it's worked pretty well. I too am quitting Celexa however, because of major weight gain. I don't know what's worse: the grumpy moods/short temper that comes with the WB or feeling fat from taking Celexa. There must be something else that can reduce/eliminate the edginess from WB without gaining an easy 20-30 lbs in the process.
LBW> Well, I'm on 30mg of Celexa going down to 20mg next week and possibly will go up on the wellbutrin (been on 100mg in the a.m. for ten days.) I have been edgy, but don't yet know if that was due to PMS or not. Hoping it was, because I don't want to add the celexa back in to help for that because of the weight gain! I will let you all know if I lose some of the weight once totally off the celexa (whether or not I can lose it), and about the social aspects or anti social aspects.
> Lizzy,
> can you tell me where you got the article on the Dalai Lama or what the name is? Who knows, maybe it will help with some of the edginess. Thanks!
Posted by Tincup on April 19, 2001, at 15:50:05
In reply to New and nervous, posted by MarieMurph on April 19, 2001, at 13:04:07
I've been taking Celexa (20mg) for about a week now for anxiety/panic. The first couple of days on the drug were tough (nausea, shaking, trouble sleeping). Now the side effects are beginning to ease some. Everyone I spoke with said to give it at least two weeks before giving up on it. The first week is the toughest because it takes SSRI's a little time for your body to adjust. I'm feeling better. Am now able to drive and went back to work after a month two days ago. I'm not over this yet (probably never will be), but I am learning to not let it control my life. The drug is only part of the solution, the mental/spirital approach to the whole anxiety/panic thing is important. Have you tried the book "Power Over Panic"? It helps. Good Luck!!
Posted by Loquesea on April 19, 2001, at 22:16:58
In reply to Re: New and nervous » MarieMurph, posted by Tincup on April 19, 2001, at 15:50:05
Did you start with 20 mg.? My doc has me starting with 10 for the first week. Anyone else start with 10? And can I see effects in a month starting only at 10 mg. and then going to 20?
Thanks!
Posted by lesliea on April 20, 2001, at 1:04:04
In reply to New and nervous, posted by MarieMurph on April 19, 2001, at 13:04:07
> >
> HI im 19 years old, and have panic/anxiety, and now the beginnings of depression because of my inability to do the things i want to do. I am currently taking lorazepam, when needed, not regularly, It helps, but im starting to depend too much on it, and it makes me tired, I also had tried Paxil, and had to stop after 3 days, it made me sooo sick!!!... And i was talking to a friend who recently started taking celexa, and really likes it. I just dont want to get sick like i was before with the Paxil. I'm at the point where i cant work, or drive far alone....Does anyone take celexa for severe anxiety?? and is it working?? I'm also really concerned about hte side effects... do you notice them decreasnig over time?Hi--
I have been on zoloft for about three years and it suddenly stopped working. I changed shrinks (not because I did not like him, but it was through the University and they don't want to continue treating me. They need the space for other students which I completely understand).
My new doc suggested that I stay on the zoloft for a while and add the celexa. He said that I could split the pill in half if I wanted and start on 10 mgs, but I chose to start with the 20.
I've been taking it for about 2 weeks now. I started taking it in the morning but it made me sleep all day. Then I switched to evenings.
I still have great difficulties sleeping at night. I have no difficulty staying awake all night and then sleeping during the day. I can't really say if it is the celexa doing this as all my life I have been a nightowl and given the slightest opportunity my internal clock will flip flop and I have the hardest time straightening it out.
oh yeah. Now I remember what I was going to say:)
I was taking the zoloft for depression and incredible anger that I could not control which nearly cost me my life and my marriage. Needless to say I am still here and my marriage is better than ever. However, what made me go back to the doc was severe anxiety/panic. I could not get out of bed to go to work. I wound up quitting my job because I thought it just wasn't fair to them to put them through what I knew would be a long drawn out affair to get myself back under control.
I did experience some stomach upset from the zoloft periodically. If I did not take it with my morning coffee I was in agony. I have not experienced this with the celexa, so that is good. Anyway, I guess that's all for now. I hope to hear from you (and any others who wish) about your experiences and how you are doing.Take care
Leslie
Posted by Loquesea on April 23, 2001, at 23:43:05
In reply to Re: Performance anxiety, posted by Glenda on April 18, 2001, at 10:59:36
> > Has anyone heard of Celexa being prescribed for performance anxiety? My psychiatrist is suggesting I start with this.
>
> My psychiatrist just prescribed this medication for my anxiety. I have only taken one pill so I am no expert on this drug. Reading about all the side effects is pretty scary.Glenda, let me know how it is going. I am one week in with no good effects yet (for anxiety, anyway), but I am noticing the jaw-clenching. (Which I als experienced with Effexor and Zoloft).
Waiting for the anxiety to dissipate, though!
Posted by crzybtch on April 24, 2001, at 1:05:38
In reply to Re: New and nervous » MarieMurph, posted by lesliea on April 20, 2001, at 1:04:04
Hi everyone!
Bear with me people...This is probably going to be long.
I am 21 years old. I have been on so many different meds, since I was 16, that I can't list them all. Been on anti-depressants, anti-psychotics, and stuff for my OCD and anxiety. They put me on celexa today. I am kinda happy about it. I have read the threads and really do feel positive about it compared to all the others I've been on. My head does hurt now, but my life has been filled with migranes... no big deal yet. I was put on celexa for my anxiety. I was sick of meds and feeling like I couldn't live without my pills. It's been a year since my last meds:zoloft, respirdal and trazadone. I would like to say to some people writing on here(can't remember names): that a family doctor prescribing anti-depressants is kinda scary to me, that every drug has a side affect, it's finding the one that works best for you that matters, that celexa is suppossed to have the least side effects of the AD's on the market here now, and that the people looking for "the usual weight gain/loss side effect" should know that it's...uh, I forgot the word, well I mean that it doesn't have truely one, it's different for everyone. These are just MY opinions, take them or leave them, but don't hate me because of them. I am not qualified or anything else like that. I guess I forgot my point, tired by now. Well, I guess I say "Thanks for listening."crzybtch
Posted by SalArmy4me on April 24, 2001, at 2:59:55
In reply to Hello hello, another newbie!!, posted by crzybtch on April 24, 2001, at 1:05:38
Are you taking a medication for the migraines?
--SalArmy4me
Posted by crzybtch on April 24, 2001, at 16:21:52
In reply to Re: Hello hello, another newbie!! » crzybtch, posted by SalArmy4me on April 24, 2001, at 2:59:55
> Are you taking a medication for the migraines?
>
> --SalArmy4meOnly when I need it. Anti-inflamitories and I can't remember the name of the migrne stuff.
crzybtch
Posted by Johnna on May 2, 2001, at 11:24:14
In reply to Re: Celexa/side effects, posted by Kate on March 19, 1999, at 8:36:30
> > i am just starting celexa, without much info on the
> > side effects. mainly, i am concerned with sexual
> > dyfunction, sleepiness, and memory loss. i have
> > been on various other meds (prozac, zoloft,
> > wellbutrin, serzone, luvox). one thing that i have
> > noticed is an absentmindedness or memory loss when
> > i increased the dosage (10 to 20). i haven't noticed
> > any fatigue or sleepiness problems. but about the
> > sexual dysfunction... from reading your notes, my
> > sex drive might actually return?
> > anyone with info?
> > dina
>
> I've been on Celexa for about 2.5 months at 20mg/day and it works great except that I sleep 10-12 hours/night.
> If I don't get that much sleep I'm tired the next day. I'm thinking about asking my Dr. to decrease my dosage
> and see if that helps. Any one else have a similar experience?Hey, I am new here, but just started Celexa a little more than a month ago. At first I tried it for a month, and then my dr switched me to Paxil to try, b/c I had horrible Insomnia with the Celexa. Paxil was horrible, so back to Celexa I went. Now I am so tired all the time, i cant figure it out. Do you think I should increas dosage or decrease? I dont think i want to decrease, but i am afraid to decrease too for worse side effects. But I would rather have insomnia than be sleepy all the time! The sexual side effects I have not noticed, b/c i have no boyfriend currently! Lol. The yawning is constant, my teachers probably think i hate their classes! But it is much better than Zoloft or Paxil In my opinoin.
Posted by kathylynn on May 7, 2001, at 16:08:28
In reply to Re: Celexa/side effects, posted by Johnna on May 2, 2001, at 11:24:14
I've been on Celexa for about a year and a half, 40mg a day. Yes, sleepy sometimes, but I've noticed that is worse during the seasonal changes, I'm actually starting to feel a little more energy with Spring/Summer upon us. I still have depressing thoughts, but I cope so much better with all the crud that happens in life. No sexual side affects, except perhaps less drive, but then I was like that before! The worst part is the delayed weight gain, it sneaks up on you, and I have gained 30 pounds and that is AWFUL! Memory loss, yes, but not bad. More of a trouble concentrating, and total lack of motivation. Don't know how much longer I want to take this drug, I'm thinking if I was thinner I wouldn't be so depressed!!
Kathy
Posted by SalArmy4me on May 8, 2001, at 0:46:37
In reply to Re: Celexa/side effects, posted by kathylynn on May 7, 2001, at 16:08:28
Do you take the Celexa in the morning or at bedtime?
> I've been on Celexa for about a year and a half, 40mg a day. Yes, sleepy sometimes, but I've noticed that is worse during the seasonal changes, I'm actually starting to feel a little more energy with Spring/Summer upon us. I still have depressing thoughts, but I cope so much better with all the crud that happens in life. No sexual side affects, except perhaps less drive, but then I was like that before! The worst part is the delayed weight gain, it sneaks up on you, and I have gained 30 pounds and that is AWFUL! Memory loss, yes, but not bad. More of a trouble concentrating, and total lack of motivation. Don't know how much longer I want to take this drug, I'm thinking if I was thinner I wouldn't be so depressed!!
>
> Kathy
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