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Posted by Noa on January 3, 2000, at 16:02:46
I am having, perhaps have always had, difficulty with transitions of any kind. At the moment it is leaving work to go home. I am glad I can leave work, but perhaps not so looking forward to home which isn't feeling like home cuz of how filthy it is. I told myself I would do my 12 minute cleanup maximum, per Janice's model, but I don't even feel like going there.
I have difficulty with other transitions as well. Anyone else have this problem?
Posted by saint james on January 3, 2000, at 21:30:31
In reply to Transition Trouble, posted by Noa on January 3, 2000, at 16:02:46
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> I have difficulty with other transitions as well. Anyone else have this problem?James here....
Many people w/ADD have this problem, I know I do.
j
Posted by Cass on January 4, 2000, at 0:11:46
In reply to Re: Transition Trouble, posted by saint james on January 3, 2000, at 21:30:31
Noa, I have that problem too. How do you feel making transitions, fearful, full of dread? Saint James, do you know why people with ADD have problems with transitions? I'd sure be interested in knowing.
Cass
Posted by bigbertha on January 4, 2000, at 0:12:37
In reply to Transition Trouble, posted by Noa on January 3, 2000, at 16:02:46
> I have difficulty with other transitions as well. Anyone else have this problem?
oh boy do I! I still owe a teacher an assignment
from over 1 year ago - he passed me so I could
graduate (something my shrink and I are working on)
But what a jerk I turned out to be!!
However, James' note fits me at least, because I have ADD +
depression + anxiety (esp. with social phobia,
perfectionism, yaddayaddayada..).The transition thing: I am QUITE/currently
familiar with the chaotic mess scenario - apparently
it's related to perfectionism and is also a form of
protection (messy house is the "moat" to keep people
away) for social phobics.I don't know how long you've been in treatment but for
right now: STOP beating yourself up over this! Your most recent
post indicates that you have: #1 just returned from holiday "lalla
land", which can drag out all sorts of regrets/fears
even when you have a good time;#2 you're still working
on the right meds for you; #3 you're back in a work
environ. You have a lot on your plate right now and
even Superman couldn't handle this. Although I agree
with the ideas from the other posts, you might not
be strong enough yet to face the "mess monster" and suffer
yet another defeat. But Noa, that day WILL come. I have
been in therapy almost two years and I have kept my
bedroom and kitchen clean for the past 4 months. Yet I am still
chronically late, worried about what others think about me, etc.
One day you WILL be able to say "I'm cleaning the fridge today. It
might be the only thing I ever clean but I'm doing it."
And that fridge will be your pride and joy. Soon other things
will follow, but don't give up hope.Be gentle with yourself
bb
Posted by Janice on January 4, 2000, at 0:58:56
In reply to Re: Transition Trouble, posted by bigbertha on January 4, 2000, at 0:12:37
Hi Noa,
yes, I've always had trouble with all transitions... big ones and little ones. For me, I believe, it's the ADD.My brain works best when it has no options. best regards, Janice
Posted by juniper on January 4, 2000, at 1:03:07
In reply to Re: Transition Trouble, posted by bigbertha on January 4, 2000, at 0:12:37
i'd say i have problems with both the little transitions, and the larger ones. the little ones: just going to the store or out can seem like pulling rhinocerous teeth. the larger ones: i have an awful time leaving people or places, and an even worse time when people leave me, whether they are physically leaving or just distancing themselves emotionally or mentally. (in the spirit of masochism i chose a job, an outward bound instructor, where i become very close to people and then we scatter, very often never to see one another again)
this leaves me with an unfortunate cycle:
friends call, but going out seems such a chore, i usually stay in. friends stop calling seeing as i am unreceptive. i feel lonely and unwanted.i've always felt that the larger transition problems stem from losing someone very close to me at a young age. i chalked the smaller transition problems to apathy. the thought that this could have something to do with ADD is really interesting and something i had not heard of before.
to you, noa, the fact that you even care about cleaning now shows that the clutter and fog in your brain is prioritizing itself...much more important than your physical surroundings being prioritized. i think that the natural time will come when you just begin to clean, without really thinking about it. you can help it along with some motivation, but don't overdue it or rush it. best of luck...i'll think clean thoughts for you :)
juniper
Posted by JohnL on January 4, 2000, at 3:41:52
In reply to Transition Trouble, posted by Noa on January 3, 2000, at 16:02:46
Very interesting comments in this thread. I am fine at work, but I have the darndest time making the transition of leaving the house. When the day is done, I have the hardest time walking in my house and getting comfortable. Normal daily transitions are always a demanding challenge for me.
What I find most interesting is the hypothetical connection to ADD. I'm seeing my pdoc this Friday. I have been on the fence between choosing two different routes. One is the mood stabilizer route, Depakote. The other is the psychostimulant route. With comments from this thread, I think I'm leaning a little more toward the psychostimulant route. That would also be the fastest thing to try, if it works. Interesting thread. JohnL
Posted by S. Suggs on January 4, 2000, at 5:48:06
In reply to Transition Trouble, posted by Noa on January 3, 2000, at 16:02:46
Transition is a pain (I'm Add-h) and I'v found out that 99% of the problem of starting a project, like cleaning up, is getting started. I saw a note on a customers desk which went like this "Start your project, but start small". I know it may sound silly, but there is a lot of truth in it. Have you tried giving yourself a deadline or doing those which you despise when you feel your best? Just a few thoughts for what they are worth. Good luck and blessings,
S. Suggs
Posted by CarolAnn on January 4, 2000, at 10:15:15
In reply to Re: Transition Trouble, posted by JohnL on January 4, 2000, at 3:41:52
>>I have been on the fence between choosing two different routes. One is the mood stabilizer route, Depakote. The other is the psychostimulant route. With comments from this thread, I think I'm leaning a little more toward the psychostimulant route.>>JohnL, I've noticed that we have pretty much the same symptoms, so thought I'd offer this:
Ritalin did nothing for me(unless I took dangerous amounts), but I have felt a little better on Adderall. It's not a dramatic difference, but definitely noticeable. I'm on 10 mgs three times per day, and while there is some lift to mood, the main effect is that I can get up out of bed and get stuff done! So, I guess it boosts my energy all though, again, it's not some dramatic "speed" type of effect. Hope my experience can help! Good Luck!CarolAnn
Posted by Judy on January 4, 2000, at 19:51:35
In reply to Transition Trouble, posted by Noa on January 3, 2000, at 16:02:46
Noa,
I've actually stayed at work many times, stalling for over an hour, because I couldn't bear the thought of getting myself home. I do the same thing in the morning - I'll put my toothbrush down and go back to bed for a 'few more minutes' because I just don't want to get going.
I've never considered the word 'transition' - always thought of it as procrastination, lack of motivation, whatever.
As I've done so many times since finding this BB, I thought "Hey! Somebody else does that too!"
Judy
Posted by anna on January 5, 2000, at 10:04:36
In reply to Transition Trouble, posted by Noa on January 3, 2000, at 16:02:46
> I am having, perhaps have always had, difficulty with transitions of any kind. At the moment it is leaving work to go home. I am glad I can leave work, but perhaps not so looking forward to home which isn't feeling like home cuz of how filthy it is. I told myself I would do my 12 minute cleanup maximum, per Janice's model, but I don't even feel like going there.
>
> I have difficulty with other transitions as well. Anyone else have this problem?
I have add too, and yes, transitions are a problem--change is a problem, even small ones. I don't know why. Adderall helps, but not everything.what is the 12 minute cleanup? --anna
Posted by Renee N on January 5, 2000, at 17:10:50
In reply to Re: Transition Trouble, posted by anna on January 5, 2000, at 10:04:36
> > I am having, perhaps have always had, difficulty with transitions of any kind. At the moment it is leaving work to go home. I am glad I can leave work, but perhaps not so looking forward to home which isn't feeling like home cuz of how filthy it is. I told myself I would do my 12 minute cleanup maximum, per Janice's model, but I don't even feel like going there.
> >
> > I have difficulty with other transitions as well. Anyone else have this problem?
>
>
> I have add too, and yes, transitions are a problem--change is a problem, even small ones. I don't know why. Adderall helps, but not everything.
>
> what is the 12 minute cleanup? --annaMan, I love you guys! It feels so good to "go" somewhere and feel like people really truly understand, can relate to, and care about your eachother and and our problems.
People who don't have ADD or don't believe or understand the type without hyperactivity always think we are exaggerating our struggles. I wish they could follow me around for 24 hours and THEN give me their opinion. Yes, we all do stupid things, but not constantly like us. This week I locked myself out of my car at work one day and left my lunch in the car the next. I left icecream sitting on the freezer, forgot where I left my glasses, forgot to bring my ADDerall to work, can't remember if I took a pill 5 minutes ago, asked my kids,
"who ate all the eggs?" when they were sitting on the counter where I had placed them less than 3 minutes earlier...need i go on? Sound familiar? I do believe that those of us with a leaning toward depression dwell on these problems lmore than a more secure, cheerful, self confident person might in the same situation.
Posted by Renee N on January 5, 2000, at 17:15:03
In reply to Re: Transition Trouble, posted by Renee N on January 5, 2000, at 17:10:50
> > > I am having, perhaps have always had, difficulty with transitions of any kind. At the moment it is leaving work to go home. I am glad I can leave work, but perhaps not so looking forward to home which isn't feeling like home cuz of how filthy it is. I told myself I would do my 12 minute cleanup maximum, per Janice's model, but I don't even feel like going there.
> > >
> > > I have difficulty with other transitions as well. Anyone else have this problem?
> >
> >
> > I have add too, and yes, transitions are a problem--change is a problem, even small ones. I don't know why. Adderall helps, but not everything.
> >
> > what is the 12 minute cleanup? --anna
>
>
>
> Man, I love you guys! It feels so good to "go" somewhere and feel like people really truly understand, can relate to, and care about your eachother and and our problems.
> People who don't have ADD or don't believe or understand the type without hyperactivity always think we are exaggerating our struggles. I wish they could follow me around for 24 hours and THEN give me their opinion. Yes, we all do stupid things, but not constantly like us. This week I locked myself out of my car at work one day and left my lunch in the car the next. I left icecream sitting on the freezer, forgot where I left my glasses, forgot to bring my ADDerall to work, can't remember if I took a pill 5 minutes ago, asked my kids,
> "who ate all the eggs?" when they were sitting on the counter where I had placed them less than 3 minutes earlier...need i go on? Sound familiar? I do believe that those of us with a leaning toward depression dwell on these problems lmore than a more secure, cheerful, self confident person might in the same situation.
Hi, it's me again. I just remembered that I also wanted to respond to the question about transition problems and ADD. Transitions require thinking about details and planning. Do you have everything you need? What time should you leave? Did I turn off the coffee? And on and on.
Posted by Noa on January 5, 2000, at 19:14:30
In reply to Re: Transition Trouble, posted by Renee N on January 5, 2000, at 17:15:03
Thanks everyone for all these great responses.
My pdoc recently did introduce the thought that maybe I have ADD, undiagnosed throughout childhood. He based this on 1) diurnal eneuresis that I had from about age 4-7, because I told him it had been hard for me to break away from whatever I was doing to go potty, and that I think I just didn't pay attention to the signals my body was sending; 2) the difficulty I have with transitions; 3) my tendency to have to struggle to be organized and my current state of total chaos; 4) the tendency I have to get fidgety from antidepressants; 5) that even though I was generally a good student, when I reached high school my performance plummeted because I couldn't focus myself and couldn't get my act together to write papers, even though I was good at the elements of writing; 6) the fact that I had told him that in college, I became a supreme daydreamer, and could sit through an entire class without hearing a word, being totally lost in my own world, but being able to remain aware of turning the page so I could look like I was with the class.
However, I believe all of those things can be explained by my emotional problems, anxiety and depression. What I really thing is that certain processes in the brain are affected by anxiety and depression in much the same way as in ADD, and that "functionally" they overlap a lot.
The eneuresis thing is a good example of my transition problems. I think I just couldn't tear myself away from being with people or being engaged in an activity. Just like now, it is hard for me to go out of my apartment in the morning and hard for me to leave work in the afternoon.
Some of you mentioned the decisions involved. I have difficulty with that, too. Like, I will be driving a route to or from work, and if there is a choice of how to go (which there is), sometimes I will get anxious about which way to go. I am aware of how silly it is to be anxious, and so then I get down on myself for even thinking about it. Sometimes neither choice appeals to me and I feel a kind of dull dread.
To add to this ridiculousness: because of the current chaos in my apartment, I often do not have food at home, so added to the route home thing is a more agonizing argument I have with myself about stopping somewhere for food and water. Ideally, everything would be drive-thru, because the additional transition of getting out of the car and into the store and back into the car often seems so overwhelming for me. And, all the while I am berating myself for being so lazy, etc. And, the truth is, I usually am a person who is able to feel grateful for what I have (access to decent food, etc., transportation, etc.), so all my agonizing is abhorent to me, to boot, knowing that so many people don't have these things.
Ok, I have rambled. Sorry.
Posted by Noa on January 5, 2000, at 19:17:44
In reply to Re: Transition Trouble, posted by anna on January 5, 2000, at 10:04:36
> what is the 12 minute cleanup? --anna
I believe it was Janice who shared this idea. Once a day, you set a timer for 12 minutes and clean for that amount of time, no more no less. That way, you can avoid getting overwhelmed and will keep on top of things.
Posted by S. Suggs on January 6, 2000, at 5:34:53
In reply to Re: Transition Trouble, posted by Noa on January 5, 2000, at 19:14:30
Noa, as mentioned earlier, I ADD-H (minus the hyperactivity)and dysthymia to boot. The ADD for adults is not as well recognized as in children, or so it seems-I think the medical community is comming around on this one, thank goodness. Some of your symptoms are classic, particularly the unorganized side. There are some (for what they are worth) sites for on line test for adult ADD. If you have trouble finding them, email me or post and I'll look it up for you.
Several month ago I mentioned that my wife has a friend with a masters in education-works with 2nd or 3rd graders I think. One of the things they ask the parents (if ADD is suspected)is if the kids insist to have the tags cut out of their shirts-distraction factor. Myself, I cut all out, have done so for years. And what is interesting is that my son, almost 3, cannot stand to have his tags in his shirts, it bothers him greatly-genetical? Now, I am not trying to ad a symptom to the medical documented list, but I know that there are other symptoms out there for ADD.
Sorry to babble so long, Blessings,
S. Suggs
Posted by Noa on January 6, 2000, at 6:24:24
In reply to Re: Transition TroubleTo Noa, posted by S. Suggs on January 6, 2000, at 5:34:53
Thanks, S Suggs. I also have worked with ADD kids, and agree the tag thing can be a part of the cluster of signs and symptoms. However, I also think it can be a function of tactile defensiveness, which is often a symptom ADD kids have, but can also be a symptom other people have. I am tactily defensive. The tag usually doesn't bother me, but collars at the throat do, like turtlenecks, or even some t-shirts, etc. As of yet, ADD is still a diagnosis in flux, in that the experts are still debating if everything that is currently grouped under ADD (actually at the moment it is called ADHD) is really one syndrome or two or several. Also, as I mentioned, there is a lot of overlap with other disorders. It probably really doesn't matter whether I, or another individual, has the diagnosis or not, because it is more effective to look at the symptoms, and not worry so much about the overall diagnosis. I take a stimulant (methylphenidate sr) anyway, to augment my ADs.
Posted by CarolAnn on January 6, 2000, at 9:21:14
In reply to Re: Transition TroubleTo Noa, posted by Noa on January 6, 2000, at 6:24:24
Hello S.Suggs,
I would love to have the info on ADD sites,ect., you mentioned, I've been to the Bob Seay one, but would like to see others.
I haven't been diagnosed yet, but did a self test and had 17 out of 20 criteria! Also, Adderall(prescribed for fatigue) has been quite effective, with focus and motivation. These things and the fact that my symptoms go back to earliest remembered childhood, has me absolutely convinced that I should be diagnosed ADD W/O hyperactivity(have seen various Pdocs write it this way). Anyway, any info or comments would be most appreciated, since this whole concept is very new to me(I had never even considered ADD as one of my problems, because I always thought it basically meant hyperactive, which has *never* described me!). CarolAnn
Posted by S. Suggs on January 6, 2000, at 9:59:17
In reply to Re: ADD W/O hyperactivity (? for S.Suggs), posted by CarolAnn on January 6, 2000, at 9:21:14
CarolAnn: Here is one that seems to be a good site for you to start. If you are not happy with it, I'll be happy to look again. I hope it helps! Blessings!
www.nadc.org/start.htm
it has a link to a on line test:
www.oneaddplace.com/addcheck.htmThe NADC site looks pretty good with lots of info. Good surfing!
S. Suggs
Posted by CarolAnn on January 6, 2000, at 12:48:55
In reply to Re: ADD W/O hyperactivity (? for CarolAnn)try this, posted by S. Suggs on January 6, 2000, at 9:59:17
You are so sweet, you always have time for helping people out! Thank you very much!
CarolAnn
Posted by S. Suggs on January 6, 2000, at 14:31:14
In reply to Re: Thank you to S.Suggs, posted by CarolAnn on January 6, 2000, at 12:48:55
CarolAnn: It is truly my pleasure to help when I can.
Blessings,
S. Suggs
Posted by anna on January 6, 2000, at 17:27:10
In reply to Re: Anna's question, posted by Noa on January 5, 2000, at 19:17:44
> > what is the 12 minute cleanup? --anna
>
> I believe it was Janice who shared this idea. Once a day, you set a timer for 12 minutes and clean for that amount of time, no more no less. That way, you can avoid getting overwhelmed and will keep on top of things.
Posted by anna on January 6, 2000, at 17:32:59
In reply to Re: Transition Trouble, posted by Renee N on January 5, 2000, at 17:15:03
> > > > I am having, perhaps have always had, difficulty with transitions of any kind. At the moment it is leaving work to go home. I am glad I can leave work, but perhaps not so looking forward to home which isn't feeling like home cuz of how filthy it is. I told myself I would do my 12 minute cleanup maximum, per Janice's model, but I don't even feel like going there.
> > > >
> > > > I have difficulty with other transitions as well. Anyone else have this problem?
> > >
> > >
> > > I have add too, and yes, transitions are a problem--change is a problem, even small ones. I don't know why. Adderall helps, but not everything.
> > >
> > > what is the 12 minute cleanup? --anna
> >
> >
> >
> > Man, I love you guys! It feels so good to "go" somewhere and feel like people really truly understand, can relate to, and care about your eachother and and our problems.
> > People who don't have ADD or don't believe or understand the type without hyperactivity always think we are exaggerating our struggles. I wish they could follow me around for 24 hours and THEN give me their opinion. Yes, we all do stupid things, but not constantly like us. This week I locked myself out of my car at work one day and left my lunch in the car the next. I left icecream sitting on the freezer, forgot where I left my glasses, forgot to bring my ADDerall to work, can't remember if I took a pill 5 minutes ago, asked my kids,
> > "who ate all the eggs?" when they were sitting on the counter where I had placed them less than 3 minutes earlier...need i go on? Sound familiar? I do believe that those of us with a leaning toward depression dwell on these problems lmore than a more secure, cheerful, self confident person might in the same situation.
>
>
> Hi, it's me again. I just remembered that I also wanted to respond to the question about transition problems and ADD. Transitions require thinking about details and planning. Do you have everything you need? What time should you leave? Did I turn off the coffee? And on and on.Hey renee--I forget everything too!!! I even sent up a poost last month because I thought my memory was going. We do the same stuff. another thing I do--I made up my own planner--it's not pretty like the nice leather ones (I use a 3 ring notebook) but it is big and I took the best from all the systems and made it to suit me. It helsps.
Posted by Renee N on January 7, 2000, at 0:28:42
In reply to Re: Transition Trouble--renee, posted by anna on January 6, 2000, at 17:32:59
> > > > > I am having, perhaps have always had, difficulty with transitions of any kind. At the moment it is leaving work to go home. I am glad I can leave work, but perhaps not so looking forward to home which isn't feeling like home cuz of how filthy it is. I told myself I would do my 12 minute cleanup maximum, per Janice's model, but I don't even feel like going there.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have difficulty with other transitions as well. Anyone else have this problem?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have add too, and yes, transitions are a problem--change is a problem, even small ones. I don't know why. Adderall helps, but not everything.
> > > >
> > > > what is the 12 minute cleanup? --anna
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Man, I love you guys! It feels so good to "go" somewhere and feel like people really truly understand, can relate to, and care about your eachother and and our problems.
> > > People who don't have ADD or don't believe or understand the type without hyperactivity always think we are exaggerating our struggles. I wish they could follow me around for 24 hours and THEN give me their opinion. Yes, we all do stupid things, but not constantly like us. This week I locked myself out of my car at work one day and left my lunch in the car the next. I left icecream sitting on the freezer, forgot where I left my glasses, forgot to bring my ADDerall to work, can't remember if I took a pill 5 minutes ago, asked my kids,
> > > "who ate all the eggs?" when they were sitting on the counter where I had placed them less than 3 minutes earlier...need i go on? Sound familiar? I do believe that those of us with a leaning toward depression dwell on these problems lmore than a more secure, cheerful, self confident person might in the same situation.
> >
> >
> > Hi, it's me again. I just remembered that I also wanted to respond to the question about transition problems and ADD. Transitions require thinking about details and planning. Do you have everything you need? What time should you leave? Did I turn off the coffee? And on and on.
>
> Hey renee--I forget everything too!!! I even sent up a poost last month because I thought my memory was going. We do the same stuff. another thing I do--I made up my own planner--it's not pretty like the nice leather ones (I use a 3 ring notebook) but it is big and I took the best from all the systems and made it to suit me. It helsps.Anna, look around, we have answered eachother elsewhere about similar topics. We must be kindred spirits. Since I have many aquaintances, but no one around to pal around with, it's good to find someone like you. Too bad you're nodt my next-door neighbor! :)
P.S. Both times I wrote posts to you I messed up by writing the subject in the name box and had to go back and fix it. I find myself wasting so much time fixing things because of my lack of attention to details and/or forgetting of all sorts. Yesterday I forgot to dial *9 before calling outside the office, forgot to put 1 before the area code, and a few other blunders before I finally got a call to go through . I ended up with a telephone tag message, ironicly to my son's doctor about his ADD!
Posted by anna on January 7, 2000, at 16:14:52
In reply to To: Anna, posted by Renee N on January 7, 2000, at 0:28:42
> > > > > > I am having, perhaps have always had, difficulty with transitions of any kind. At the moment it is leaving work to go home. I am glad I can leave work, but perhaps not so looking forward to home which isn't feeling like home cuz of how filthy it is. I told myself I would do my 12 minute cleanup maximum, per Janice's model, but I don't even feel like going there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have difficulty with other transitions as well. Anyone else have this problem?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have add too, and yes, transitions are a problem--change is a problem, even small ones. I don't know why. Adderall helps, but not everything.
> > > > >
> > > > > what is the 12 minute cleanup? --anna
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Man, I love you guys! It feels so good to "go" somewhere and feel like people really truly understand, can relate to, and care about your eachother and and our problems.
> > > > People who don't have ADD or don't believe or understand the type without hyperactivity always think we are exaggerating our struggles. I wish they could follow me around for 24 hours and THEN give me their opinion. Yes, we all do stupid things, but not constantly like us. This week I locked myself out of my car at work one day and left my lunch in the car the next. I left icecream sitting on the freezer, forgot where I left my glasses, forgot to bring my ADDerall to work, can't remember if I took a pill 5 minutes ago, asked my kids,
> > > > "who ate all the eggs?" when they were sitting on the counter where I had placed them less than 3 minutes earlier...need i go on? Sound familiar? I do believe that those of us with a leaning toward depression dwell on these problems lmore than a more secure, cheerful, self confident person might in the same situation.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, it's me again. I just remembered that I also wanted to respond to the question about transition problems and ADD. Transitions require thinking about details and planning. Do you have everything you need? What time should you leave? Did I turn off the coffee? And on and on.
> >
> > Hey renee--I forget everything too!!! I even sent up a poost last month because I thought my memory was going. We do the same stuff. another thing I do--I made up my own planner--it's not pretty like the nice leather ones (I use a 3 ring notebook) but it is big and I took the best from all the systems and made it to suit me. It helsps.
>
> Anna, look around, we have answered eachother elsewhere about similar topics. We must be kindred spirits. Since I have many aquaintances, but no one around to pal around with, it's good to find someone like you. Too bad you're nodt my next-door neighbor! :)
>
> P.S. Both times I wrote posts to you I messed up by writing the subject in the name box and had to go back and fix it. I find myself wasting so much time fixing things because of my lack of attention to details and/or forgetting of all sorts. Yesterday I forgot to dial *9 before calling outside the office, forgot to put 1 before the area code, and a few other blunders before I finally got a call to go through . I ended up with a telephone tag message, ironicly to my son's doctor about his ADD!Renee
Heck, we'd be laughing so hard at all the stupid things we do we'd forget to go to work, clean--(uh, all the stuff we screw up now, anyway). I am so glad too, however, that there are people who do the dumb things I do....my friends are very put togehter, or at least don't run the washing machine without clothes, or have flooded their , bathrooms, etc regulary because they leave water running. You know, I do the same stuff with the phone, espeically given all the codes and things these days. I hardly ever get a call out on the first try. But, it's one thing I never think aboutAt did call a couple of cleaning services today to get estimates. I figure if I book someone next week, I will be forced to pick up this weekend. Yes!
I admire anyone with add and kids--how do you do it? If I had a family, DFS would likely take the kids away--I'd forget to feed them, or take them for their shots or whatever. (oh, I guess they are not puppies.)
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